Overturned!!! ---ish

[Highside Hustler25]

3 whole signatures and this has been up for several hours at least. Congrats, maybe if you make it to 100 signatures WRG will take the time to write you an email saying No rather than just deleting the petition email all together.

Thanks,
Jeff.

they could get 1 million signatures Jeff. It will change nothing.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If them tires come back clean it means nothing. Done on a race to race basis. Trust me, they'll Indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! be tested.

[clayman2]

so I guess lucas s oilers use a different lab ?

[waaac77]

It's WRG and if you dont like the rules dont run their races. It's their business and they run it how they choose. I do agree they should make the results public but what's with the petition??? They failed a lab test twice, tires are doped up. I have heard no solid evidence that the lab tests are flaud that just all seems to be speculation based on the drivers all saying they didn't dope.

If you ask me it seems WRG is doing a fine job and they seem to have evidence that backs up their testing, just wish we could see that evidence.

[heinen81]

It's WRG and if you dont like the rules dont run their races. It's their business and they run it how they choose. I do agree they should make the results public but what's with the petition??? They failed a lab test twice, tires are doped up. I have heard no solid evidence that the lab tests are flaud that just all seems to be speculation based on the drivers all saying they didn't dope.

If you ask me it seems WRG is doing a fine job and they seem to have evidence that backs up their testing, just wish we could see that evidence.

I cant even take your comment seriously after you spelled "flawed", flaud.

[Highside Hustler25]

I cant even take your comment seriously after you spelled "flawed", flaud.

hey, if spell check doesn't catch it, it's legal.


You must skip over Litey's posts.

[waaac77]

I cant even take your comment seriously after you spelled "flawed", flaud.

Then don't, grammar police

[Barbecueboy]

It's WRG and if you dont like the rules dont run their races. It's their business and they run it how they choose. I do agree they should make the results public but what's with the petition??? They failed a lab test twice, tires are doped up. I have heard no solid evidence that the lab tests are flaud that just all seems to be speculation based on the drivers all saying they didn't dope.

If you ask me it seems WRG is doing a fine job and they seem to have evidence that backs up their testing, just wish we could see that evidence.

So you know they tested the tires twice?

If they did,do you think they used they same possibly tainted samples that were collected in the pits??????

If they re tested those same samples, then what would you expect the outcome to be??

So for now, theyre all cheaters just like all the rest of the teams ............I'm good with it🤘

[slmcrewchief99]

BBq, you lost me with that last post. Tainted samples???? The only thing Tainted were the illegal tires that the samples came from as best I can tell. Does everyone think they had 32 samples, and UMP take those 5 when nobody was around, and soak them down with something illegal. We have been checked many times. They have always taken more than 1 sample. All 32 samples came from 3 different nights. Why is it so unbelievable that it was only from Friday? I'm not saying they may need to better the process but it's been working fine for what few years they have been testing tires.

[blncfn57]

BBq, you lost me with that last post. Tainted samples???? The only thing Tainted were the illegal tires that the samples came from as best I can tell. Does everyone think they had 32 samples, and UMP take those 5 when nobody was around, and soak them down with something illegal. We have been checked many times. They have always taken more than 1 sample. All 32 samples came from 3 different nights. Why is it so unbelievable that it was only from Friday? I'm not saying they may need to better the process but it's been working fine for what few years they have been testing tires.

Thank You! A perspective from someone directly involved in the sport and knows the process. BBQ will ignore this post too because it doesn't jive with his opinion.

[Barbecueboy]

BBq, you lost me with that last post. Tainted samples???? The only thing Tainted were the illegal tires that the samples came from as best I can tell. Does everyone think they had 32 samples, and UMP take those 5 when nobody was around, and soak them down with something illegal. We have been checked many times. They have always taken more than 1 sample. All 32 samples came from 3 different nights. Why is it so unbelievable that it was only from Friday? I'm not saying they may need to better the process but it's been working fine for what few years they have been testing tires.

I didn't say tainted samples.........I said potentially tainted samples and no sense in really beating that horse as to why and how they could have been tainted prior to the teams getting them...........

My point was, if you are going to test the same piece of rubber using the same methods it had better come back with the same result............and with the lack of trust the majority of people have in the systems in place and folks administering the systems is it really hard to believe or out of the question that they didn't even test them twice?



To think that the woo series would purposely dr. The tires is ludicrous ..........that would be a criminal act , and even as much disdain as I have for some of the puppets in that deal, even I wouldn't have thought that or made that allegation.

Here it is in a nutshell for me............if you are going to besmirch somebody and call them out to be cheaters and thieves , then there should be a much more accurate , efficient and transparent way to do it.

[a25rjr]

I didn't say tainted samples.........I said potentially tainted samples and no sense in really beating that horse as to why and how they could have been tainted prior to the teams getting them...........

My point was, if you are going to test the same piece of rubber using the same methods it had better come back with the same result............and with the lack of trust the majority of people have in the systems in place and folks administering the systems is it really hard to believe or out of the question that they didn't even test them twice?



To think that the woo series would purposely dr. The tires is ludicrous ..........that would be a criminal act , and even as much disdain as I have for some of the puppets in that deal, even I wouldn't have thought that or made that allegation.

Here it is in a nutshell for me............if you are going to besmirch somebody and call them out to be cheaters and thieves , then there should be a much more accurate , efficient and transparent way to do it.

I'm with ya on that......One thing that Nascar does best.....they put the cheating parts on a table for all competitors to see. WOO would be wise to post these lab tests at each race, for ALL to see!

[Barbecueboy]

Thank You! A perspective from someone directly involved in the sport and knows the process. BBQ will ignore this post too because it doesn't jive with his opinion.

You clearly don't know me or would realize how silly your post is...........I own every single one of my opinions , don't hide from any of them, and will stand toe to toe with anybody on them if I truly believe.

And fwiw, I know exactly how the process is conducted...........it's why I'm so passionate about the need to make it foolproof.

Think what you want about me personally, zero fuks given...........but you won't find me backing away from anything that comes out of my mouth, ever.

I may have to apologize or eat some crow, but backpeddling and backing away from something I truly believe......nope, won't ever happen.

[Clayton_Wetter]

It's not a federal crime to soak racing tires, as much as some of you would like to form a lynch mob!!!!

[dirtdobber45]

I didn't say tainted samples.........I said potentially tainted samples and no sense in really beating that horse as to why and how they could have been tainted prior to the teams getting them...........My point was, if you are going to test the same piece of rubber using the same methods it had better come back with the same result............and with the lack of trust the majority of people have in the systems in place and folks administering the systems is it really hard to believe or out of the question that they didn't even test them twice?To think that the woo series would purposely dr. The tires is ludicrous ..........that would be a criminal act , and even as much disdain as I have for some of the puppets in that deal, even I wouldn't have thought that or made that allegation.Here it is in a nutshell for me............if you are going to besmirch somebody and call them out to be cheaters and thieves , then there should be a much more accurate , efficient and transparent way to do it.

I'm with ya on that......One thing that Nascar does best.....they put the cheating parts on a table for all competitors to see. WOO would be wise to post these lab tests at each race, for ALL to see!

Im with yall. Why not confiscate the whole tire until results come back that way if they need to retest they can get another piece from that same tire or send it back when test are complete. And dont we have the right to see the results (not trying to be all legal like) but like the patriot act type act? lol