crate cheating and Mullins

[calverton]

That is a crock how can he be a licensed rebuilder getting those numbers what is the point of having a crate if its dynoed way above the the none rebuild ones are

[over4T]

One of our region's IMCA licensed rebuilders currently has a rebuilt 604 for sale. On alcohol it dynoed 492 HP, 489 torque. Pretty much says it all to the guy who buys a new stock one from GM. The winning 602s are just as bad in the Sport or B Mods.

[calverton]

really where do run a bmod at ? you talk about whats needed for tech for crates but have you ever seen UMP or any UMP track tech a crate engine ever ? I can tell you it never happens.

tech wise most certainly every big show locally and every sat. night was it fair of who they teched everyweek he11 no but they did tech

[Illtsate32]

Two part question..what exactly is done to the crate to cheat it up? And how easy is it to tell its been cheated are any getting teched and they are missing the signs or is UMP just not checking them at all?

[brownIdriller]

really now I known mike a lil longer than you have , known Mike since around 1978 maybe earlier

= Bbbrrrttttt!!

[rustymod]

really now I known mike a lil longer than you have , known Mike since around 1978 maybe earlier

Excellent so since Mike has known you for so long than clearly he would we an excellent reference for the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to racign and you dont participate other than attending races and typing on 4m and getting banned on 4m and STL raicng regularly because everyone is tired of your BS

[calverton]

really now I known mike a lil longer than you have , known Mike since around 1978 maybe earlier

[Cooter Davenport]

good friend with drivers and teams that including the driver who won the real racer award from Ken Schrader last weekend

Asked Mike about you this weekend and all he could do was laugh a shake his head...LOL

[rustymod]

b mod are nothing but a crashfest anyway who needs them

really where do run a bmod at ? you talk about whats needed for tech for crates but have you ever seen UMP or any UMP track tech a crate engine ever ? I can tell you it never happens.

[kidrock]

Our I Mod class at Kankakee Il. and Shadyhill In. allowed the crate motor this past season and there were two guys running them and they RAN away with EVERY feature. I had a 355ci motor with every opion part allowed and we ran 4th both nights we ran. It took all the fun outta it and we decided to stay home. The crate deal was/had the potential to be a very affordable class but like every other class in racing racers are there own enemy.

Yes Tom and the lack of real teching and the racers themselves. Always crying about cost but, are the first to cheat and run up the cost.

[1bbmft]

Our I Mod class at Kankakee Il. and Shadyhill In. allowed the crate motor this past season and there were two guys running them and they RAN away with EVERY feature. I had a 355ci motor with every opion part allowed and we ran 4th both nights we ran. It took all the fun outta it and we decided to stay home. The crate deal was/had the potential to be a very affordable class but like every other class in racing racers are there own enemy.

[calverton]

don't believe me prove me wrong

[brownIdriller]

Really need a big motor some tracks lmao a couple b mods made the main at the dome which is the size ofmacon and bellevegas and you don't have to tear the motor down a p and g test and various other test can be performed

=Bbbbrrrrrtttttt!

[brownIdriller]

b mod are nothing but a crashfest anyway who needs them

=Bbbbrrrrrtttttt!

[calverton]

Really need a big motor some tracks lmao a couple b mods made the main at the dome which is the size ofmacon and bellevegas and you don't have to tear the motor down a p and g test and various other test can be performed