crate cheating and Mullins

[rustymod]

they are losing tracks because of suspension rules that teams don't like plus a crate won the national championship not saying I like it either may not own a car but good friend with drivers and teams that including the driver who won the real racer award from Ken Schrader last weekend

so you have good friends that race super. Bottom line UMP is losing Bmod tracks due to engine rules. Teams with open engines that do not want to buy crates and do not want to add extra 100 lbs to run against crate are leaving UMP tracks or demanding that the promoter leave UMP for bmods.

Crates are not being teched and they need to be. I am glad to see Mullins post as this will open the door to reality, there is some cheating going on with crates and the sanctions are looking the other way since they are getting paid for each crate.

[stock car driver]

I bet it will be closer than it was a few years ago when the spoiler first came in.

The crates won a lot but not every big one. Thorton won at super nats with an open. Kay won with an open at Knoxville. Those are just the ones I know.

For the record, I don't agree with the spoiler being back. The crates don't need them and we all know it's lining the pockets of IMCA. That's old news.

Opens won those two races this year, when the crate had no spoiler.....

[calverton]

so you have good friends that race super. Bottom line UMP is losing Bmod tracks due to engine rules. Teams with open engines that do not want to buy crates and do not want to add extra 100 lbs to run against crate are leaving UMP tracks or demanding that the promoter leave UMP for bmods.Crates are not being teched and they need to be. I am glad to see Mullins post as this will open the door to reality, there is some cheating going on with crates and the sanctions are looking the other way since they are getting paid for each crate.

b mod are nothing but a crashfest anyway who needs them

[93Nelson]

Opens won those two races this year, when the crate had no spoiler.....

Idk. I still think it's going to be close. Not like it was a few years ago.

[kidrock]

that is total bull crap they are teching at least the tracks I attend

really what are they teching and how far are they going. are they tearing a motor down to see what's in it?

[calverton]

Really need a big motor some tracks lmao a couple b mods made the main at the dome which is the size ofmacon and bellevegas and you don't have to tear the motor down a p and g test and various other test can be performed

[brownIdriller]

b mod are nothing but a crashfest anyway who needs them

=Bbbbrrrrrtttttt!

[brownIdriller]

Really need a big motor some tracks lmao a couple b mods made the main at the dome which is the size ofmacon and bellevegas and you don't have to tear the motor down a p and g test and various other test can be performed

=Bbbbrrrrrtttttt!

[calverton]

don't believe me prove me wrong

[1bbmft]

Our I Mod class at Kankakee Il. and Shadyhill In. allowed the crate motor this past season and there were two guys running them and they RAN away with EVERY feature. I had a 355ci motor with every opion part allowed and we ran 4th both nights we ran. It took all the fun outta it and we decided to stay home. The crate deal was/had the potential to be a very affordable class but like every other class in racing racers are there own enemy.

[kidrock]

Our I Mod class at Kankakee Il. and Shadyhill In. allowed the crate motor this past season and there were two guys running them and they RAN away with EVERY feature. I had a 355ci motor with every opion part allowed and we ran 4th both nights we ran. It took all the fun outta it and we decided to stay home. The crate deal was/had the potential to be a very affordable class but like every other class in racing racers are there own enemy.

Yes Tom and the lack of real teching and the racers themselves. Always crying about cost but, are the first to cheat and run up the cost.

[rustymod]

b mod are nothing but a crashfest anyway who needs them

really where do run a bmod at ? you talk about whats needed for tech for crates but have you ever seen UMP or any UMP track tech a crate engine ever ? I can tell you it never happens.

[Cooter Davenport]

good friend with drivers and teams that including the driver who won the real racer award from Ken Schrader last weekend

Asked Mike about you this weekend and all he could do was laugh a shake his head...LOL

[calverton]

really now I known mike a lil longer than you have , known Mike since around 1978 maybe earlier

[rustymod]

really now I known mike a lil longer than you have , known Mike since around 1978 maybe earlier

Excellent so since Mike has known you for so long than clearly he would we an excellent reference for the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to racign and you dont participate other than attending races and typing on 4m and getting banned on 4m and STL raicng regularly because everyone is tired of your BS