Mod - Car Counts - Central Illinois

[hygty]

wow looks like imca rules will draw a decent car count Davenport reporting 48 mods so far.

what did it pay 2 k tri city weekly pay out and got 40

[$UMP$]

lmao here are the fact read slowly so you are not confused your blind loyalty to ump often does that to you. UMP and Hoosier agreed to put out a terrible tire called the A40s, it was horrid , and they pulled it off the market after racers complained. Many racers however had already bought and mount those tires and were STUCK with them. Hoosier and UMP then pulled the A40s off the market. Racers now know once and for all that UMP and Hoosier are working together to fleece them for every nickel they can get. The car counts in central IL are proving this is true. Now I realize lite inn you dont like facts but everything I posted is 100% true. Keep saying you cant see it at the one or two tracks you go to but that does not change whats going on many other tracks.

Actually the a40s is a faster tire. There really isn't anything wrong with the tire other than inexperienced racers abusing them!

[hygty]

he knew that lol

[rustymod]

he knew that lol

clueless lying snakes on the ump payroll.

dean Hoffman told ump the tire was garbage, are you saying he is a liar?

lomax and others ran around buying up every a40 they could get.

this bs was all caused by Hoosier and ump

[wadegarrett]

Don't confuse things with facts, ump supporters don't like that. Numerous top racers complained and thus UMP pulled the tire. If it was so great they would have stuck to their guns.

[$UMP$]

clueless lying snakes on the ump payroll.

dean Hoffman told ump the tire was garbage, are you saying he is a liar?

lomax and others ran around buying up every a40 they could get.

this bs was all caused by Hoosier and ump

I have experienced normal tire wear but then again I didn't slice the sh it out of them either like the others. Wrapping them in plastic bags helped also.

[rustymod]

I have experienced normal tire wear but then again I didn't slice the sh it out of them either like the others. Wrapping them in plastic bags helped also.

If talk to racers that got stuck with these lousy tires they will tell you that the siping was not the issue it was the tire. Dean Hoffman will tell you and others.

Hoosier's EXCUSE was too much siping or grooving, but anyone at track in central IL and MO will tell you this was not the case and thus UMP and Hoosier pulled the tire.

Since you CLAIM to race in Indiana whey do you care ? You can run Ds.

Hoosier and UMP tried to pull a fast one and went to far. They were hoping for a faster wearing tire to make some more money on a class that is already struggling.

If you like them so much let me know, I know a racer that has mounted a half dozen of these turd A40s tires and I am sure he will be happy to trade you for some As or Hs.

[hygty]

why would you put a's on in the first place and rustymods your eyes must be brown

[$UMP$]

If talk to racers that got stuck with these lousy tires they will tell you that the siping was not the issue it was the tire. Dean Hoffman will tell you and others.

Hoosier's EXCUSE was too much siping or grooving, but anyone at track in central IL and MO will tell you this was not the case and thus UMP and Hoosier pulled the tire.

Since you CLAIM to race in Indiana whey do you care ? You can run Ds.

Hoosier and UMP tried to pull a fast one and went to far. They were hoping for a faster wearing tire to make some more money on a class that is already struggling.

If you like them so much let me know, I know a racer that has mounted a half dozen of these turd A40s tires and I am sure he will be happy to trade you for some As or Hs.

My experience with the tires is on the race track. Your experience is sitting in the stands! You know nothing about the a40s.

[rustymod]

My experience with the tires is on the race track. Your experience is sitting in the stands! You know nothing about the a40s.

no you cant name a single track where you run with actual results and a name. We all know for a fact that you crew for Lomax and little else.

As for you lite dim, if you actually raced you would know that in IL its As or Hs, but since you dont own a car and dont race you would not know.

$UMP$ last I checked Dean Hoffman has won more features then you have ever even been in and he said the A40s is garbage. SO I guess you are saying he does not know what he is doing according to you ???

Neither one of you actually own a car or race so its all just BS trying to support UMP when all on this board know UMP got caught trying to screw the racers.

There days are soon done, central IL car counts for mods are dropping and all the tyoing and BS you two idiots type on here will not change the mess that UMP has already made.

[hygty]

bull crap my friend yep dropping had 40 friday night 30 sat night you don't have to own a car to figure 4 x 10 would be 40 did you read what hoosier the a 40s works at some tracks and not others and the way deans drives not knocking him at he's hammerdown kinda driver the g60 would toast also dang nab it only 35 at farmer city 28 at fairbury

[rustymod]

bull crap my friend yep dropping had 40 friday night 30 sat night you don't have to own a car to figure 4 x 10 would be 40 did you read what hoosier the a 40s works at some tracks and not others and the way deans drives not knocking him at he's hammerdown kinda driver the g60 would toast also dang nab it only 35 at farmer city 28 at fairbury

oh yeah car counts are super as long as you keep looking at the results for the same tracks. All you ever look at lite inn are tri city, pevely, etc. The tracks people are talking about including me are in Central IL, you have never even been to these tracks. So get back on STL racing and talk about those tracks.
Dean and others said the A40s was terrible. If the A40s is so great then why did Hoosier pull it off the market ????
How would know anyway you dont own a car and dont buy any tires.

[kidrock]

Rustymod, your just wasting your time with this guy, he's going to defend UMP to the end so, no sense trying to convience him. Most people in the racing world looks at the whole picture and not just part of the picture. Yes some tracks are doing better then others but, for the most part the car counts are dropping and not just in the mod division. You sure can't go by this past weekend at car counts because some of the tracks had specials and we're paying more so, naturally your going to have more cars but, if you look at the weekly shows the car counts are down and that's a FACT. I remember just a few years ago at some of these tracks you would 25 to 30 mods every week and now your lucky to 15 to 18. Now I realize there are many reason for why car counts are dropping and it's just not the Sanctions fault but, they have not done anything to help with controlling cost. Yes there are some racers or teams that can afford to keep racing but, overall it's just not that affordable to many teams nowadays. If UMP doesnt come up with a good solution it's only going to get worse. You only have to look at all the new classes being started To know there's a problem. I know some are going to say that's part of the problem but, in reality that's the fall out to a sanction body not knowing or willing to come up with a good solution. Let's those think everything is just fine and one day there going to say I sure wish I didn't have to drive so far just to race because, that's probably what it's going to come to. Tracks are going to close and drivers are going to have to drive further from home just to race and fans are going to have to drive further just to watch a race and again more added cost. It's going to be up to the drivers to get UMP and or the tracks to make some nessasary changes before its to late.

As far as the tire debacle if the tire was a good tire why did they discontinue the tire enough said. It would be one thing if you only had a couple guys complaining but, that wasn't the case here.

[hygty]

Tri citry was a weekly show and had 40 cars and 136 in total so try again you put on a fair show with good calls on races good surface and you will get cars , some tracks are blessed with a alot of racers some are not H ighland for example has lose to 30 late model team from that part of madison county and no things are not rosy expllain not gtting street stocks or 4cyls those are the classes that need revamping thats you news teams supposedly coming

[hygty]

the sky is not falling explain why some IMCA tracks get 11 cars also