Mod - Car Counts - Central Illinois

[team jarvis]

Break time is over get back in Burger King and take some orders!

lots O posting on this thread about BK, I thought this was a racing board. LMAO

[$UMP$]

And there you have it. UMP is collecting big tire money and meanwhile doing almost nothing for it. Almost every other sanction has a tech person at the track. UMP leaves it to the promoters which means no tech. UMP is doing zero other than having the spoilers taken off to help this class grow or at least maintain. In fact they tried pull a fast one with A40S BS. The same two clowns can type on here about great UMP is but the writing is on the wall for all to see, you can ignore if you like but it does not change anything. UMP needs to go.

Break time is over get back in Burger King and take some orders!

[rustymod]

MONEY. That is why Hoosier is now IMCA's tire. The tire companies bid on being the tire supplier, each time the contract is up. Hoosier is bigger, therefore they can bid more. Then they add the price to the top of the tire and make the racer pay for their own point fund. The UMP tire money started at $10 per tire in 1992, and is now way more. That is why the tires go up every year 3 or 4 dollars. The racer has no say in the matter. I wouldn't say that either tire is better than the other brand, but if it is a mandatory tire, why should they worry about making it better? Or even decent

And there you have it. UMP is collecting big tire money and meanwhile doing almost nothing for it. Almost every other sanction has a tech person at the track. UMP leaves it to the promoters which means no tech. UMP is doing zero other than having the spoilers taken off to help this class grow or at least maintain. In fact they tried pull a fast one with A40S BS. The same two clowns can type on here about great UMP is but the writing is on the wall for all to see, you can ignore if you like but it does not change anything. UMP needs to go.

[$UMP$]

Donnie is right, it's all about the Money. Hoosier pays and pays HUGE to keep the monopoly going. hygty, ie LITE-INN, BiG.ED, or whatever he's going by these days refuses to hear anything negative about UMP and it's treatment of the drivers. HE and his buddy $UMP$ are the sole reason I left this board. They get banned for their BS, then they simply create another user name and wah-laa, they're back starting BS once again. When the moderators finally see that people aren't frequenting the board any longer, maybe they'll ban these two yahoo's IP addresses permanently and we can get back to racers talking about racing.

Let me guess when you are not on here you are out somewhere licking windows!

[blueracer11]

Donnie is right, it's all about the Money. Hoosier pays and pays HUGE to keep the monopoly going. hygty, ie LITE-INN, BiG.ED, or whatever he's going by these days refuses to hear anything negative about UMP and it's treatment of the drivers. HE and his buddy $UMP$ are the sole reason I left this board. They get banned for their BS, then they simply create another user name and wah-laa, they're back starting BS once again. When the moderators finally see that people aren't frequenting the board any longer, maybe they'll ban these two yahoo's IP addresses permanently and we can get back to racers talking about racing.

[HEAVY DUTY]

really that's what happen with NASCAR cheaper softer tires so I guess in your mind hoosier and goodyear are sub par to t o american racer if American racer is so great why did IMCA leave them

MONEY. That is why Hoosier is now IMCA's tire. The tire companies bid on being the tire supplier, each time the contract is up. Hoosier is bigger, therefore they can bid more. Then they add the price to the top of the tire and make the racer pay for their own point fund. The UMP tire money started at $10 per tire in 1992, and is now way more. That is why the tires go up every year 3 or 4 dollars. The racer has no say in the matter. I wouldn't say that either tire is better than the other brand, but if it is a mandatory tire, why should they worry about making it better? Or even decent

[indyboywilliam]

and what is the price of tea in china?? (has nothing to do with car counts .... racers always find a way to race, its just a matter of trying to make it more affordable) yes economy has little affect but the guys who race want to race no matter what and making it more affordable is the key to that.

yeah look at the white house and its only going to get worse with the clowns we have in there right now

[hygty]

yeah look at the white house and its only going to get worse with the clowns we have in there right now

[kidrock]

they have around my parts and going from a stock car to modified can be unsettling the big problem I see is not enough drivers coming in the lower classes like street stocks and 4cyl those are the classes dying esp 4 cyl when you guys buying a number factory crates to find the right motor all in flipping front wheel car whenthet move up everything they knew about racing goes right out the window

well unfortunately they haven't in other places but, only if that was the problem but, there's more to it then just guys moving up.

[hygty]

they have around my parts and going from a stock car to modified can be unsettling the big problem I see is not enough drivers coming in the lower classes like street stocks and 4cyl those are the classes dying esp 4 cyl when you guys buying a number factory crates to find the right motor all in flipping front wheel car whenthet move up everything they knew about racing goes right out the window

[kidrock]

it worked years ago in fact this year a number of mod drivers did move up maybe that has something to with smaller car counts

I wonder why no one from the lower classes step up to fill the shoes of those who left?

[kidrock]

really that's what happen with NASCAR cheaper softer tires so I guess in your mind hoosier and goodyear are sub par to t o american racer if American racer is so great why did IMCA leave them

Never said anyone was sub par, let me say it again competition is a good thing and usually makes thing cheaper. I never said AR were so great but, at least the racers can make that decision. The way it is now they only Hoosier to choose from.

[hygty]

No it's not the same difference because AR are a proven tire unlike the NASCAR fiasco Competition breeds cheaper tires and it gives the racers another option.

really that's what happen with NASCAR cheaper softer tires so I guess in your mind hoosier and goodyear are sub par to t o american racer if American racer is so great why did IMCA leave them

[hygty]

So, then are you saying when you get a certain amount of experience you need to move up a class, so some mod drivers need to move up

it worked years ago in fact this year a number of mod drivers did move up maybe that has something to with smaller car counts

[kidrock]

Well I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on UMP. I say they lack leadership and it's time to go and you say they are doing a great job and need to stay.