Mod - Car Counts - Central Illinois

[kidrock]

Can't be Litey the words are spelled correctly and proper grammar is used.But many believe it is a "banned" person making another screen name.Kind of twisted deal.

Your right lol,

[hygty]

Great, so your plan is for the class to die and stay with ump. No thanks. Even going usra would drop tire cost about 40 bucks each. This is good thing for all a mods. Staying with ump is a fools move.One more thing yes all sanctions make money on tires but why does ump have to be some (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) greedy. Imca and usra both, charge 40 bucks less a tire and make plenty of cash. Ump just screwing the racers with overpriced garbage tires

what about the guys that have a warehouse full of tires if IMCA AND USRA WAS SO GREAT WHY AREN'T TALKING TO THE TRACKS RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE THATS NOT UMPS FAULT FOR THE CHARGE ITS HOOSIERS DID YOU EVER THINK THEY MAY COST MORE TO BUILD

[hygty]

litey i'm all for teaching every car no matter who it is and yes like i said it should be a joint effort between the tracks and the sanction but, that's only part of the problem. You can keep sticking up for ump and things can stay the same and one your going to wake up and only have a few tracks that you can go to but, like i said before i have no horse in this race no more so, for me it's not a problem but, for the guys that are still in it i feel bad for them. And yes just because i don't have horse in the race doesn't mean i can't have an opinion.

that is teching teacher

[hygty]

I know acouple racers both mods and lates thatmostly buy used tires been doing it for years and finish in the top 20 in points year after year

[hygty]

ask a sprint car how their tires are and how many they get out of them but they don't complain

[hygty]

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?343...d-win-amp-MORE d@mn UMP wait not all classes areUMP

[wadegarrett]

what about the guys that have a warehouse full of tires if IMCA AND USRA WAS SO GREAT WHY AREN'T TALKING TO THE TRACKS RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE THATS NOT UMPS FAULT FOR THE CHARGE ITS HOOSIERS DID YOU EVER THINK THEY MAY COST MORE TO BUILD

No need to yell Lite Inn, lol. I think you may want to recheck things a bit. I was at the usra booth at a recent event, and yes they are talking to tracks are trying to move this way, cant speak for imca, too much of an engine change anyway for most. your defense of ump wont hold water the a40s disaster showed the truth, I know more than one racer that already mounted these ckunkers and are stuck with them. Not to mention suppliers that bought them and had to return them You can keep defending UMP but its a waste of time everyone else sees exactly whats going on. Car counts are down and a switch by next next wont hurt anyone it fact it will only save money in the long run.

[rustymod]

what about the guys that have a warehouse full of tires if IMCA AND USRA WAS SO GREAT WHY AREN'T TALKING TO THE TRACKS RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE THATS NOT UMPS FAULT FOR THE CHARGE ITS HOOSIERS DID YOU EVER THINK THEY MAY COST MORE TO BUILD

Warehouse of tires dream on. I hope no one is stuck with a boat load of those useless A40s tires that they had to take back. Dont cry about Hoosier tires cost please them and UMP are laughing all the way to the back and they still are.
So please explain your plan to fix the problem is to have everyone stay with ump...and exactly what is ump doing to help the amod class other that trying to screw us all with a40s tire ?

UMP and Sam are cluelss and they are going down, keep supporting your relative if you must but they are not helping anyone except there own bank accounts, a switch ANY other sanction would be an upgrade.

[team jarvis]

time to alert the moderator again, there WAS a good discussion on how to improve the class with car counts down, and the now its getting derailed.

[hygty]

being derailed or telling the real story for instance there are probably at 30 drivers in mods that move either crates or supers you never fiqured that out did you USRA couldn't handle that many tracks could they

[rustymod]

being derailed or telling the real story for instance there are probably at 30 drivers in mods that move either crates or supers you never fiqured that out did you USRA couldn't handle that many tracks could they

as always lite inn you are back on the board and showing that you do not have a clue and the same old fact is you dont spend any money on this class or any other so this is of no concern for you. Please go back to STL racing dirthound and continue to ruin that board, this one was much improved since you were gone.
Ump needs to go they are doing nothing but collecting money and watching it all happen.

[hygty]

really you don't have a clue car count going down yes guys moving up unlike USRA which means the mods is there top class in UMP which does have class to move to UMP ALLOWS THE CT525 IN LATES LUCAS MLRA EVEN WOO doesn't

[hygty]

d@mn ump check the results from boone it must umps fault

[kidrock]

I dont think anyone can say everything about UMP is bad but to think they are a good sanctioning body I just don't see it but, hey I can't see very well at my age. I think tracks could do better without UMP in my opinion. If they are afraid of a SN date they should have their own big race with the same purse and you don't have to pay the sanction fee to have it. It's a win win for the track. it is time for UMP to to go that's for sure. If I ran a track today I would go independent and see what happens. With the way so many are pissed at UMP I bet it would work. Get the guys together to come up with a set of rules enforce the rules and I would bet you could get 20 to 25 cars every week.

[kidrock]

farmer city comes to mind ooops

Yep and a totally different situation back then and a lot has changed since then. I will admit it's going to get tougher and tougher to go independent as the years go by because, the car count is dwindling so fast you might not have enough cars to go around to do it but, in my opinion if the pay was right and you had a decent point fund at the end of the year and the rules were cost saving rules with a good tire rule you just might be surprised of the car count.