Mod - Car Counts - Central Illinois

[hygty]

why because they messed up your street rules i get it but if they are so bad why do they exist

[kidrock]

which mean you are supporting UMP for now on go to sycamore or places like that yes ump has done things that sisturb racers ie street stocks but wasn't their fault you can't get on set of rules when each track hasd rules that were miles apart but guess whaT if you walk in the gates you are supporting it sorry you can't weasel out of that one is ursa is so great and UMP so bad why hasn't the take over happened you guys been complaining for years both nothing has happened NOTHING NADA ZERO

you can look at however you want and in your eyes if you want to say I'm supporting ump then so be it. Yes That makes a lot sense to drive 2 to 3 hours away to watch a weekly show. Listen I realize what your trying to say here but, I'm not giving a dime of my money to UMP so, no I don't support ump and if I owned a track I would not have them as a sanctioning body at my track.

[kidrock]

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?236...hlight=kidrock boom got ya

And supposedly what did you get me on?

[kidrock]

which mean you are supporting UMP for now on go to sycamore or places like that yes ump has done things that sisturb racers ie street stocks but wasn't their fault you can't get on set of rules when each track hasd rules that were miles apart but guess whaT if you walk in the gates you are supporting it sorry you can't weasel out of that one is ursa is so great and UMP so bad why hasn't the take over happened you guys been complaining for years both nothing has happened NOTHING NADA ZERO

Really NASCAR does and they go to tracks all over this country. Ump can get all tracks on the same page if they wanted to but, they don't want to. All they want is the money from the tracks. What ump needs to do is do away with the rules and tell the tracks have your own rules because that's what we have now. Like I told my dad Saturday when he asked me how this or that car could be legal to the rules and I told him it's just merely a suggestion from UMP. All ump has to do is pull the sanction from the tracks that don't enforce the rules but, this will never happen because tracks will leave them so fast it ain't funny.

[hygty]

http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?236...hlight=kidrock boom got ya

[hygty]

which mean you are supporting UMP for now on go to sycamore or places like that yes ump has done things that sisturb racers ie street stocks but wasn't their fault you can't get on set of rules when each track hasd rules that were miles apart but guess whaT if you walk in the gates you are supporting it sorry you can't weasel out of that one is ursa is so great and UMP so bad why hasn't the take over happened you guys been complaining for years both nothing has happened NOTHING NADA ZERO

[kidrock]

But kidrock when you walk in the gate you are supporting it you can not deny it

No when I walk in that gate I'm supporting the drivers, other fans and the track but, it just so happens the track is under the UMP SANCTION. I'm not giving a dime of my money to ump so, I'm not supporting ump but, the tracks who pay the sanction fee are.

[hygty]

But kidrock when you walk in the gate you are supporting it you can not deny it

[kidrock]

It doesn't matter what some of these guys think. Some promoters have come to realize that they need to make some changes. More promoters will be inclined to make changes come August when traditionally car counts and attendance drop. It's a matter of survival.

I agree 100 %, it's so nice to hear from someone who gets it.

[kidrock]

But you go and support which is it

When I go it's not to support UMP. I can assure you of that.

[kidrock]

really KIDROCK you b@tch about UMP BUT THEN SUPPORT A ump track of the year what gives as far as good payout how are going to do that with the lack of fans like I said before the ecnomy has alot to do with with race fule at 8 bucks a galllon and diesel around 3 bucks again but oh lets blame the sanction and their tires and you say about tri citys with alot of people to pull from lol there is also alot thing going in the area racing or non racing explain Eldora speedway explain why belle claire is getting noi crowds and neither is I55 but Highland and tri city are

Just so we get this straight I'm not supporting UMP. I don't have any choice if I want to go to a race around this part of the country and while we are setting the record straight I have said all the blame does not lie with UMP there are plenty of other factors that go into it but, in my opinion overall they do a piss poor job of running a sanction. It would be different if I was the only one that felt this way but, you know others feel the same way. I can't give you a answer as to why some tracks are doing better the others because there could be many reasons why.

[hygty]

Again you are so narrow minded. I guess you can't comprehend what you read sometimes. I said yes some tracks are doing better then others but, the overall picture is not good. Let's look at tri-city and where they are located. They are how close to the St.louis area and have how many people in that area they can pull from. That's what I thought quite a few people. Now I will say the Promoters at tri-city do a very good job of promoting but, it also helps you have 1,000's and 1,000's of people to pull from. Yes tri-city might have been a weekly show but, some of the other tracks had specials and or a series running their tracks here in central il. like I said in the past UMP is not a very good sanctioning body and I'm not the only one that feels this way. Yes there are plenty who think UMP is ok and their doing a great job. It should tell you something if tracks in the IMCA world are struggling to get cars. It must say the cost is getting out of hand for the common guy who works during the week and races on the weekend. Like I said I would like to see a couple of tracks get together with a good set of rules and good payout and do away with the sanction.

But you go and support which is it

[hygty]

Yeah Clayton Miller was fast all night. First time at the track and takes home the check. Tyler Nicely coming from 17th to finish 4th but, your right the races were pretty good over all. Sportsman and SS were probably the 2 best features of the night and not that the Mods and Lates weren't good races because they were. WHO SAID THIS LOL

[hygty]

really KIDROCK you b@tch about UMP BUT THEN SUPPORT A ump track of the year what gives as far as good payout how are going to do that with the lack of fans like I said before the ecnomy has alot to do with with race fule at 8 bucks a galllon and diesel around 3 bucks again but oh lets blame the sanction and their tires and you say about tri citys with alot of people to pull from lol there is also alot thing going in the area racing or non racing explain Eldora speedway explain why belle claire is getting noi crowds and neither is I55 but Highland and tri city are

[Pops15]

It doesn't matter what some of these guys think. Some promoters have come to realize that they need to make some changes. More promoters will be inclined to make changes come August when traditionally car counts and attendance drop. It's a matter of survival.