E85--Oxygenated Gas--Pump gas

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  • brad hibbard
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 974

    #1

    E85--Oxygenated Gas--Pump gas

    lets talk fuel
    lets swap stories
    lets discuss problems
    what do YOU like?

    Brad
    Race-1.com
  • Younggun32
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2014
    • 28

    #2
    Funny you posted this. I was planning on calling you in a bit to pick your brain on an issue im having.

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    • brad hibbard
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 974

      #3
      fire away---sharing issues with everyone is always a good thing
      If I cannot help --I am sure we can talk it through with someone here

      Brad
      Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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      • ZERO25
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 5240

        #4
        What should the carb maintenance be from week to week? We seem to be getting a fair amount of residue!

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        • brad hibbard
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 974

          #5
          what fuel are you on zero?

          Brad
          Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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          • ZERO25
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2018
            • 5240

            #6
            VP Crate Horsepower

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            • JustAddDirt
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1893

              #7
              Brad,
              Do you see any real performance differences in leaded e-85 race fuel in a drum, and tested good e-85 from the gas pumps at local gas station?
              I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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              • brad hibbard
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 974

                #8
                zero25--
                CHP is tuff on everything
                there is no denying the power it makes but it comes with a price--
                we recommend running an upper lube with that fuel (marvel mystery oil works fine)
                use as directed ---more is not better
                beyond that ---anytime the car will sit idle for more than a week---the fuel system should be drained and flushed with a non oxygenated fuel juiced with the same upper lube
                also---replace power valves in the carb twice a year
                call me with any questions

                Brad
                Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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                • brad hibbard
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 974

                  #9
                  Just add dirt,
                  E-85 fuel---pump VS race grade
                  on the dyno we have seen absolutely no difference between race grade (leaded) E85 and "GOOD" pump E85
                  here is the problem---I am not even going into the ethanol content discussion as I hope everyone already understands the importance of testing the content
                  BUT ---pump fuels are generally stored underground and anything stored underground is subject to moisture issues
                  If your station does not move a high volume of e85 there can easily be a moisture issue in your fuel.
                  it is critical to engine performance to have moisture free fuel that is at a content of 84 to 86 % ethanol
                  when we have this recipe we do not see any difference in dyno numbers---however we believe in track performance over dyno testing --so if you tell me the one or the other performed better on track we will analyze the situation to form a scientific explanation as to why

                  sorry to ramble there but there is not a clear answer to your question ---there are variables

                  Brad
                  Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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                  • Smiley8119
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2019
                    • 3

                    #10
                    For a 604 I'm seeing people running 650 and 750 carburetor what's power difference or is one better than the other?

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                    • brad hibbard
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 974

                      #11
                      we lived in 650 land for ever no matter what the fuel because 650's just accelerate better
                      BUT
                      recently (last year or so) for E85 we have moved to a bit larger carb for E85 because our builder (Stealth) has figured out a few things to maintain acceleration rate with a little more air to carry the engine at the end.

                      carb size 101----bigger carbs make power at a higher RPM---smaller carbs accelerate better but lack power on the topside

                      currently (for most applications) on E85 we use a 700 for 602's which is a 1.300 venturi and 730 for 604's which is a 1.345 venturi but that is Stealth---if I were using a different manufacturer I would quiz them on acceleration VS power

                      we still use 650's for all gas applications (1.250 venturi)

                      hope that helps
                      Brad
                      Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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                      • fastford
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4059

                        #12
                        hey brad , just curious , have you done any testing with a E85 500 cfm 2brl on a 602 ?

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                        • brad hibbard
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 974

                          #13
                          I have not had that opportunity----we do have a ton of 2 brl stuff on 602's but it's in an area where they mandate gas
                          my guess is that it would be awesome
                          602's love e85 and they do well on 2brl's

                          I wore myself out trying to improve on the adapter for gas and I believe the adapter for e85 might need some tweeks as well to get the best result

                          Brad
                          Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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                          • fastford
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4059

                            #14
                            ok , the new factory stock class we have requires a 2 brl period , whether a built engine or a 602 ....

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                            • north louisiana dirt
                              Member
                              • May 2017
                              • 44

                              #15
                              carb size: how to determine

                              is there a simple way to measure the carb to figure out venturi size and cfm with the E85 specialty carbs that don't have list numbers anywhere on them....

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