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  • bluemod
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 214

    #1

    when scaling ?s

    When scaling your car will there be a diffrence on a cold day or a hot day? Any info on this would help.
  • Egoracing
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 4852

    #2
    Temp has nothing to do with weight, You may have to allow the shocks to settle longer as the oils will be stiffer but that is all.

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    • TwistedFrame21
      Member
      • Oct 2012
      • 54

      #3
      Originally posted by Egoracing View Post
      Temp has nothing to do with weight, You may have to allow the shocks to settle longer as the oils will be stiffer but that is all.
      Should have shocks unhooked when scaling

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      • QuesinberryRacing
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 300

        #4
        ?????

        Originally posted by TwistedFrame21 View Post
        Should have shocks unhooked when scaling
        I hope you are joking, right?

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        • Egoracing
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 4852

          #5
          Originally posted by TwistedFrame21 View Post
          Should have shocks unhooked when scaling
          Impossible when the shocks have the coil springs that are holding the car up wrapped around them.

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          • swingarm4life
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 155

            #6
            That has got to be the best post I have read in like 5 years.

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            • TwistedFrame21
              Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 54

              #7
              My bad I'm a modified guy I browse the crate forums for the 604

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              • ask0329
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 242

                #8
                what about scaling with or without the driver in the car? Logic says to scale it with the driver in the car or put appropriate weight in the seat to make up for the driver. Thats 100-200+ lbs of left side weight that isnt showing up on the scales. hhhhmmmmmm

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                • Matt49
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 3123

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ask0329 View Post
                  what about scaling with or without the driver in the car? Logic says to scale it with the driver in the car or put appropriate weight in the seat to make up for the driver. Thats 100-200+ lbs of left side weight that isnt showing up on the scales. hhhhmmmmmm
                  You'll get differing opinions on this but mine is this: scale with the driver in the car.
                  Putting the weight of the driver in the seat doesn't simulate the weight of the driver. We aren't racing in the fetal position and legs are heavy.
                  With that being said, the most important thing is that you scale the same way EVERY time and take good notes. As long as you aren't changing drivers or your driver doesn't fluctuate weight much, you should be able to reproduce about any setup without him as long as you knew what the numbers were both with and without.
                  We always scale with driver to hit our target numbers and then also note what the numbers are without driver afterwards so that we can reproduce it either way.
                  We have noticed that depending on spring package and bar angles, the cross weight numbers might not always come out just right but left and rear are always dead on.

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                  • balljoint
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1774

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TwistedFrame21 View Post
                    Should have shocks unhooked when scaling
                    Dont apologize to these punks. Some people have crate bigspring cars....

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                    • Egoracing
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 4852

                      #11
                      With or without the driver depends on the builder of the chassis also. Some chassis setup pages are set up without the driver. The link angles and all the settings were setup and recorded without the driver. They built it considering the average weight of 200lbs. If the driver weighed more you had to add weight to the seat.

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