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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #31
    Originally posted by Mr.Kennedy777 View Post
    Why did they make it so that you can't cushion the LR through either the rod or the birdcage assembly? Is it a possibile safety issue or what is it? Scared of trying new things? If we're talking unfair advantage this piece would cost maybe 200 to make at home lol.

    Its part of the current idiocy of the sport. I used a shock and bumpstop for my top link in 2015 with a chain parallel to it for preventing extension. The cushion seemed to help a bit.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • Punisher88
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 495

      #32
      Coleman racing products builds a piece that works great for that. Works really nicely and has a travel indicator made onto it.

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      • Punisher88
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 495

        #33
        Part #24640. I replaced their bushings with a hard bumostop. I could tell a difference in forward. It would actually bog the motor a bit. I also slotted the shaft and out a pin in it to keep it from over extending.

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        • billetbirdcage
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2020

          #34




          OUTLAWED!

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          • MBR Performance
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2014
            • 199

            #35
            Depends on where you race lol.

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            • Matt49
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 3123

              #36
              I've been saying for years that our left rears are too stiff on the bars the way they are and that dampening the top bar could be helpful (see Penske device above). This is why the "heavy" LR components (steel wheels, lead on the axle, etc.) are in trend. They are compensating for the lack of critical dampening when the car is barred up by making unsprung weight. It's a crutch for a crutch. I digress...

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              • Brian Gray
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1102

                #37
                We have been hiding these springs inside the shock for quite some time now. Nothing new
                Shocks by BGR army

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                • Punisher88
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 495

                  #38
                  Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
                  OUTLAWED!
                  Although this would most definitely work better with being more adjustable and tunable... I didn't have that kind if cash. I made mine for around 200 bucks.

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14324

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
                    We have been hiding these springs inside the shock for quite some time now. Nothing new
                    But that just works like the bump stop limiter.
                    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                    • Brian Gray
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1102

                      #40
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      But that just works like the bump stop limiter.
                      Yes and no. Most of the new bodies I am using have an adjuster to raise and lower engagement, there is also a bump rubber on the shaft as well. The important part though is we also added a contact spacer that increases rebound preload on the stack at engagement. Working pretty well too. Been moving on from this though to work more on my dual piston setup .
                      Shocks by BGR army

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                      • racer2e
                        Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 54

                        #41
                        This makes it displacement dependant? So the last bit of rebound travel has more dampening?

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                        • sidewinder69
                          Member
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 95

                          #42
                          so if this top rod collapses any, then your birdcage should roll forward then shortening your lr shock center measurment.... so then you have increased your spring load if your spring was already into the coilover nut, and if you go pass the tipping point of too much load on the lr, you pick the weight up off the right rear and cause it to loose traction.

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14324

                            #43
                            Originally posted by sidewinder69 View Post
                            so if this top rod collapses any, then your birdcage should roll forward then shortening your lr shock center measurment.... so then you have increased your spring load if your spring was already into the coilover nut, and if you go pass the tipping point of too much load on the lr, you pick the weight up off the right rear and cause it to loose traction.
                            That is a possible scenario. Not necessarily a likely one. Depending on a bunch of variables.
                            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                            • sidewinder69
                              Member
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 95

                              #44
                              Ill say I've got a couple penske rods and moved all over the place... It definitely isnt a magic wand like people thinks.

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                              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 14324

                                #45
                                Originally posted by sidewinder69 View Post
                                Ill say I've got a couple penske rods and moved all over the place... It definitely isnt a magic wand like people thinks.
                                I agree it is no magic wand.
                                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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