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  • lucky 13
    Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 37

    #1

    Steamin' Hot!

    Our new car is overheating. 2016 Barry Wright. The motor never got hot in our GRT, but now does. I understand with the front nose basically sitting on the groud during racing, we have limited air flow getting to the radiator, but good downforce. Pulleys are 1 to 1. We run water with antifreeze, and coolant additive. Built a shroud, still gets hot. Single pass radiator, I've tried double pass before in other cars, but didn't notice any difference. 19" fan blade. I'm really trying to do everything to keep from cutting holes in the nose. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  • LRtireCHANGER
    Member
    • Mar 2017
    • 73

    #2
    Are you running the same water pump? Does the new car have a different radiator? Have you changed the restriction in the thermostat housing? Something must have changed, just trying help you nail it down.

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    • dorman19
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 6

      #3
      the shroud can make it worse if not done right and what are you running in front of it

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      • lucky 13
        Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 37

        #4
        Same radiator (Speedway single pass), same water pump, no restrictor. Tried a thermostat restrictor once, didn't seem to help. I think the shroud helped a little. The biggest difference between the two cars is the GRTs nose was a little up in the air, while the Barry Wright is running basically on the track. I understand it's the way it's supposed to be, but with all the other cars "looking" the same way, wondering why they don't get hot? I really appreciate the ideas. Gotta figure this out.

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        • 25jrjr
          Senior Member
          • May 2017
          • 386

          #5
          Howard Stewart only recommends turning the water pump 7500 rpms max. You probly need to put a set of reduction pulleys on it.

          Is your fan a 4 blade GM?

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          • lucky 13
            Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 37

            #6
            Was a Speedway 19" blade. Ordered the GM 4 blade yesterday(ridiculously expensive), hoping it helps.

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            • Racer96m
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2008
              • 425

              #7
              If you can grab the fan and turn it , your belts are slipping, and I would guess your pulleys are worn. V belts all slip, thats why 1 to 1 works better than reduction to help compensate for the slip. I went to serpentine and 20% reduction (No more slip, and no more cooling problems)

              Dave
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              • JustAddDirt
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1893

                #8
                Originally posted by Racer96m View Post
                If you can grab the fan and turn it , your belts are slipping, and I would guess your pulleys are worn. V belts all slip, thats why 1 to 1 works better than reduction to help compensate for the slip. I went to serpentine and 20% reduction (No more slip, and no more cooling problems)

                Dave
                I agree with the Dave on the serpentine. I switched to a reduction serp. setup and temps came down. I was not overheating, but it was nice to see a cooler temps, and it frees up a smidge of power not spinning that 19" GM prop as fast.
                I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                • ace1
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 205

                  #9
                  Do you have any thing at the bottom in front of the radiator. I was having cooling problems and put a pc. of plastic at the bottom of radiator. Made kind of a inverted spoiler that would scoop air from under car and into radiator. Temps went from over 230 in a heat race to under 200 in the feature on same night.

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                  • UltimateRaceCars
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 116

                    #10
                    High Performance Race Fans.

                    These fans pull a ton of air and you can change the number of blades to tune for your application. The 3 blade version will pull more air than your 4 blade 19" steel fan.
                    www.UltimateRaceCars.com

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                    • JustAddDirt
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1893

                      #11
                      sucker

                      Originally posted by UltimateRaceCars View Post
                      http://www.race-fan.com/
                      These fans pull a ton of air and you can change the number of blades to tune for your application. The 3 blade version will pull more air than your 4 blade 19" steel fan.
                      that's A great idea.
                      I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                      • 25jrjr
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2017
                        • 386

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JustAddDirt View Post
                        that's A great idea.
                        X2!.....You could even shim it to fine tune it!

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                        • Renegade Cust Susp
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 349

                          #13
                          Had an issue with car switch there was a small difference in radiator heights which got us into a little bit of a problem with temp. Raised new one up to match old set up heat issue went away
                          Broc Burton
                          go.fast.crs@gmail.com

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                          • rakracing
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 218

                            #14
                            like renegade said, make sure your getting all the air out of system, I used a bleed valve on top of thermostat housing to bleed , did have a rad that was good at end of season and didn't work at beginning of next, also make sure timing is right and fuel system not to lean , there two of the biggest culprits, hope it helps

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                            • scott43racing
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 5

                              #15
                              If the nose of car is pinned completely down to the track to where no air can go under at all it doesn't matter what you do. The best fan, shroud or whatever is just going to pull a vacuum like void behind the nose because no air can get there.

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