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  • CDNRocket18R
    Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 78

    #1

    08 smackdown updating

    I have an 08 square tube smackdown, was thinking bout getting updates done on it, like a raised crossmember, maybe rear under slung. Is there anything else that should be done, or would it be better off to just upgrade to a newer chassis. Thanks
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14303

    #2
    Originally posted by CDNRocket18R View Post
    I have an 08 square tube smackdown, was thinking bout getting updates done on it, like a raised crossmember, maybe rear under slung. Is there anything else that should be done, or would it be better off to just upgrade to a newer chassis. Thanks
    Easiest thing would be to pick up a Gen x type car. They are cheap as hell.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • CDNRocket18R
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 78

      #3
      How are those cars in handling compared to a smack car? And I would assume I would need new front suspension as well

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14303

        #4
        Originally posted by CDNRocket18R View Post
        How are those cars in handling compared to a smack car? And I would assume I would need new front suspension as well
        They steer way, way, better. You have better ground clearance. You would need spindles and maybe uppers? I would have to check my old setup sheets... The longer Smackdown rf lower is the same length as the Gen X, but the Gen X has two coilover mounts. To be safe, you would need the rf lower too.

        I promise you will find it a worthwhile upgrade.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • TheJet-09
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 1616

          #5
          I ran an '07 Smackdown from 2013-2016, then picked up a '14 Gen-X for this year. A night and day difference. The easiest way to describe the difference would be to say the Gen-X practically drives itself. It seems almost that effortless. Much better front end as MasterSbilt_Racer said, and the rearend width and 4-bar lengths are different as well.

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          • Krooser
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 3117

            #6
            What's the difference in spindle heights bewteen the two.... and how about the S7 spindles?
            Member of the Luxemburg Speedway Hall of Fame
            Class of 2019

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            • CDNRocket18R
              Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 78

              #7
              How old of a gen x is to old? Any specific years

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14303

                #8
                To add to what Jet said, the Gen LXT can use smack bar lengths or the gen x lengths.

                For years, just find a good chassis. They are all pretty much the same.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • TheJet-09
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 1616

                  #9
                  For Krooser:

                  http://www.4m.net/showthread.php?370...e-measurements

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                  • Matt49
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3123

                    #10
                    I have to second or third what others are saying. Night and day difference. With the old smack front end, if you miss the rotation of the car on corner entry one way or another, you'll fight to get it straight all they way to the flag stand. The GenX is MUCH more forgiving. It steers with the front end from the center off unless you are just way out in left field on setup.

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                    • RCJ
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 509

                      #11
                      I updated my 08 myself.Getting the rack and bump steer figured out was the hardest part.

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                      • CDNRocket18R
                        Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 78

                        #12
                        Would a smackdown benefit from putting a rear unslung in like the new cars to make them more ridged?

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                        • TheJet-09
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 1616

                          #13
                          Others probably have a different take, or certainly a better understanding, but I look at anything beyond the rear coilover mounts as merely holding up the fuel cell/body. Now if you've ever stood on the rear bumper with the car on jack stands, you'd definitely see what flex the tail section has. I like the ease of adjustability with an overrail tail section, meaning the underslung part cannot get in the way, with LR droop, etc. I think there was a time when some cars (certain Rockets) were removing the RR underslung.

                          If not already done, I think the greatest change that can be made to your car (an '08 Smackdown) is raising the center section (where the R&P bolts on). It's not hard to do. You could look into raising the right hand frame rail as well. I planned on doing that next on my '07, but moved on to the Gen-X instead.

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                          • CDNRocket18R
                            Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 78

                            #14
                            is it just being raised up or moved back some as well. Just curious on which way to go

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                            • Krooser
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 3117

                              #15
                              What's an LXT?
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                              Class of 2019

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