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  • Mr.Kennedy777
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 212

    #16
    Digressive stack, that’s been around for a bit I think genesis had something like that going on but I couldn’t figure out what the use for it would have been, it had a lock out collar that had the one spring disengaged until a certain point of travel and then from there on, it was the stacked rate. Almost looks like in this one from advanced it wasn’t a lock out collar it was a pre loader with a spring in it with another spring stacked on the mix. Same concept of digressive rate but different mechanisms.

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    • 7uptruckracer
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 1336

      #17
      I know about these and this isn't it after I showed the guy who had me do digging Its some form of mechanical linkage between the RR and 5th coil and its supposedly not a cantaliver concept so who knows.

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      • Mr.Kennedy777
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2016
        • 212

        #18
        Originally posted by 7uptruckracer View Post
        I know about these and this isn't it after I showed the guy who had me do digging Its some form of mechanical linkage between the RR and 5th coil and its supposedly not a cantaliver concept so who knows.
        RR corner of chassis or RR axle?

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        • fastford
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4059

          #19
          are you talking about the lift arm stabilizer that runs from inside the rt bird cage on axle tube to front of lift bar?

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          • 7uptruckracer
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 1336

            #20
            No....Connects at the RR shock and Shock on Lift Arm. I havent heard or seen anything like this. Supposed to be derived from a Formula 1 concept and no not FRIC stuff

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            • Kromulous
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3008

              #21
              Cool, wonder if there trying to take load off the RR when torque is applied to the 5th coil. That would be a pretty cool device. Gonna have to go do some looking...

              Just say no...

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              • modman1010
                Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 30

                #22
                Pretty sure bloomer messed with this a couple years ago and they made him take it off

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                • billetbirdcage
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2020

                  #23
                  Originally posted by modman1010 View Post
                  Pretty sure bloomer messed with this a couple years ago and they made him take it off
                  The reason this rules exist

                  12.21 Shocks and Springs
                  A.) Shocks must be constructed of aluminum or steel. Canister shocks are permitted.
                  **1. The only external connection allowed to the shock is a single hose to a single remote canister with the option of a compression adjuster in the canister.
                  2. Compression adjuster and/or canister cannot be mounted within the reach of the driver.
                  **B.) No cross connected shocks are allowed.
                  1. The only external connection allowed to the damper is a single hose to a single remote canister with
                  the option of a compression adjuster in the canister.

                  **2. No Inerter style dampers, either mechanical or hydraulic, or other type of primarily acceleration
                  sensitive damping devices not permitted.


                  Lots of misconceptions and theories to what everyone called the 20,000.00 shocks he was using.

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                  • Mr.Kennedy777
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 212

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 7uptruckracer View Post
                    No....Connects at the RR shock and Shock on Lift Arm. I havent heard or seen anything like this. Supposed to be derived from a Formula 1 concept and no not FRIC stuff
                    Top or bottom of the shock?

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                    • 7uptruckracer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1336

                      #25
                      Honestly don’t know. Just in the intel gathering phase. He runs some big shows and struggles but local stuff really dominant so seems like it might come on and off the car. Sounds like it could be a cross connected shock

                      Originally posted by Mr.Kennedy777 View Post
                      Top or bottom of the shock?

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                      • missile07
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 680

                        #26
                        I tried to post the pic but there is one floating around of EPJ on the jacks without his complete right side and the right rear has either a take up spring or something similar to the contraption that ARS sells.

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                        • 7uptruckracer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 1336

                          #27
                          Interesting...The other car I made the post about was running too....

                          Originally posted by missile07 View Post
                          I tried to post the pic but there is one floating around of EPJ on the jacks without his complete right side and the right rear has either a take up spring or something similar to the contraption that ARS sells.

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