LR shock and spring setup

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  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #46
    One thing i would say about the 2 different spring combos is that springs at various wire diameters behave differently.

    Whether you could tell a difference behind the wheel i have no idea, King1 implied there would be, but i honestly don't know.

    I was late to the game with the whole light spring pre-load deal, but we love it so far.

    Just say no...

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    • fastford
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4059

      #47
      thats what i cant understand about locking the heavy spring out , the reason we run a stacked left rear is to have a light spring rate with a lot of travel to keep load on tire at full droop , to me they have to work together from static ride height to full droop , i must be missing something here.......

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      • hucktyson
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 1903

        #48
        I think a very important point that needs to be made is that NO ONE who is winning Crown Jewels is posting anything on here. I truly believe a lot of what is posted here is to baffle people with BS more than anything. I don’t even think anyone winning 10k Lucas or outlaw shows in the current era is posting anything here let alone crown jewel winning guys. We have tire loads the timing of those loads and we have rear steer ..... a bunch of different ways to generate tire loads and I’m sure different combinations of rear steer that cAn be used at different times to create different outcomes. You can try to complicate it however much you want but it still comes down to that

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        • hucktyson
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 1903

          #49
          I hear guys talk about magic this and trick that and heard a guy during an interview say “ these shocks make more dig than anything I’ve ever felt lol. There’s a reason some guys are consistently top 5 at major events and some guys either win or DNQ ... there’s guys the fully understand what they are doing and guys who say stuff like “ these shocks make great dig “ lol

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          • RaceEngineer
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2018
            • 482

            #50
            I have never seen a Nobel prize in physics awarded to a world 100 winner. Not even Rumley.

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            • fastford
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4059

              #51
              Oh , I agree with you huck , but there is knowledge to be gained on here , but the only way to gain that knowledge is to wade through all the BS , which is why i question what i dont understand......

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              • sidewinder69
                Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 95

                #52
                Exactly , nobody is looking for a setup to win the world 100. We just look for assistance to develop our own theories and knowledge .

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                • TeamRocket42
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2018
                  • 7

                  #53
                  Not every winning car is using a lock out nut on the left rear. The stack combo most top teams are using is nothing like I have read on this board as well. Not even close.

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                  • hucktyson
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 1903

                    #54
                    Many of them don’t even have a spring on the left rear. A big factor is a the huge difference an elite wheelman makes ... engineers will never fully own this sport due to the enormous variable the driver adds to the equation ... and the changing track conditions and patches of traction and patches of ice in the same corner

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                    • Kromulous
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3008

                      #55
                      You can look at springs now days and pretty much guess the rates or close, and i have noticed some really thick wire diameters on the lower springs. All i can say is i tried dual 150's and a lock out and was not nearly as good as the single spring were running now. Although with the 75lb rate i did not have it pre-loaded to the degree i do now so maybe thats the difference.

                      Anyway great discussion, thanks to all those that share their knowledge its appreciated by me.
                      Last edited by Kromulous; 11-30-2018, 10:07 AM.

                      Just say no...

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                      • TeamRocket42
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2018
                        • 7

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
                        You can look at springs now days and pretty much guess the rates or close, and i have noticed some really thick wire diameters on the lower springs. All i can say is i tried dual 150's and a lock out and was not nearly as good as the single spring were running now. Although with the 75lb rate i did not have it pre-loaded to the degree i do now so maybe thats the difference. Anyway great discussion, thanks to all those that share their knowledge its appreciated by me.
                        That's going in the right direction....500 600 700 800 lowers. I'm not going to give it all away but if you think about it some you will figure it out.

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