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  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #1

    Race Fan?

    We slung a belt, jones serpentine. track had some chop in it but... 2nd time we had this happen, to some degree.

    I am noticing the water pump bolts are working loose sometimes. We check them all the time now, but i am wondering if anyone out there is having a issue with these fans?

    We have ours on a EB Victor series pump, and a 3" spacer, with 4 blades in it. My theory is that its to heavy that far out away from the bolts and when we hit a hole etc its moving around to much? Seem probable? Its almost like it needs a 3rd bearing out there.

    I thought about making a turn-buckle type thing to stiffen it up, mount out by the pulley, then back strap it beck to the Intake Manifold. That or just a short spacer, but i will lose spacing to the Rad, but i do have a shroud.

    Just say no...
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14303

    #2
    Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
    We slung a belt, jones serpentine. track had some chop in it but... 2nd time we had this happen, to some degree.

    I am noticing the water pump bolts are working loose sometimes. We check them all the time now, but i am wondering if anyone out there is having a issue with these fans?

    We have ours on a EB Victor series pump, and a 3" spacer, with 4 blades in it. My theory is that its to heavy that far out away from the bolts and when we hit a hole etc its moving around to much? Seem probable? Its almost like it needs a 3rd bearing out there.

    I thought about making a turn-buckle type thing to stiffen it up, mount out by the pulley, then back strap it beck to the Intake Manifold. That or just a short spacer, but i will lose spacing to the Rad, but i do have a shroud.
    We have a very similar setup to you, but with the old school GM fan. We also had bolts coming loose. It turned out our bolts were barely too long. It pulled the pump tight as they bottomed out.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • Jking24
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 1512

      #3
      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
      We have a very similar setup to you, but with the old school GM fan. We also had bolts coming loose. It turned out our bolts were barely too long. It pulled the pump tight as they bottomed out.
      I too have seen this quite often we typically have to run a few thin washers to get it perfect. We're running the race fan four blade with a little less spacer and have run same setup on super and crate. No problems

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      • perfconn
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 3573

        #4
        I know you run the length of spacer necessary to put the fan where you want it but a long spacer is like a diving board.The furthur out you put the fan the more vibration it will have.Make a longer shroud and use a shorter spacer.

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14303

          #5
          Originally posted by perfconn View Post
          I know you run the length of spacer necessary to put the fan where you want it but a long spacer is like a diving board.The furthur out you put the fan the more vibration it will have.Make a longer shroud and use a shorter spacer.
          If you can, I agree. We have the long spacer to miss our steering rack.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • CCHIEF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 399

            #6
            You using a 19" or a 17" MBR?

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14303

              #7
              Originally posted by CCHIEF View Post
              You using a 19" or a 17" MBR?
              19" fan on ours.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • Kromulous
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 3008

                #8
                Yeah, we got the same Issue, hitting the rack.

                Just say no...

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                • JustAddDirt
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1893

                  #9
                  19" fan

                  Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
                  Yeah, we got the same Issue, hitting the rack.
                  On the MasterSbilt car that MBR is speaking of, I had to raise the motor 3/8-to 1/2"so the oil pan corner would not contact steering shaft, also had to slide the rack to the left a bit in the slotted chassis mount. This issue appeared after the raised cross member was installed. it is pretty tight fit, depending on what fan spacer is being used. I believe I used a 3.5" which is pretty well standard from what I have been told on a Masters car.
                  I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                  • billetbirdcage
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2019

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
                    We slung a belt, jones serpentine. track had some chop in it but... 2nd time we had this happen, to some degree.

                    I am noticing the water pump bolts are working loose sometimes. We check them all the time now, but i am wondering if anyone out there is having a issue with these fans?

                    We have ours on a EB Victor series pump, and a 3" spacer, with 4 blades in it. My theory is that its to heavy that far out away from the bolts and when we hit a hole etc its moving around to much? Seem probable? Its almost like it needs a 3rd bearing out there.

                    I thought about making a turn-buckle type thing to stiffen it up, mount out by the pulley, then back strap it beck to the Intake Manifold. That or just a short spacer, but i will lose spacing to the Rad, but i do have a shroud.
                    I have seen this a few times with some water pumps that don't have long enough shaft/pilot sticking out of flange. With a thick aluminum pulley, there isn't enough sticking out of the pulley to actually center or locate the spacer/fan and it can have run out in it and thus vibrate and loosen bolts on water pump to block. Worth a look

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                    • Kromulous
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3008

                      #11
                      I'll check this one Billet, i cant remember if that EB water pump has a long pilot or not. I know the Adams did, but not this one.

                      Just say no...

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14303

                        #12
                        Is the engine ok, Krom? I saw a bunch of steam.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • Kromulous
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 3008

                          #13
                          He noticed it climbed to about 270* in those 1st few laps of racing, then shut it off. Should be ok, but haven't started it since, will take a closer look at tonight or tomorrow.

                          Just say no...

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                          • CCHIEF
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2014
                            • 399

                            #14
                            Toss belts again?

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                            • Kromulous
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3008

                              #15
                              From Saturday night, we are just once a week guys Chief LOL. MBR was running at Lburg that night as well. They ran well too, car looked good.

                              Sometimes I wish I could run the roads and race 5 nights a week. Used to be Truck driver years ago, Miss the traveling etc. Then I think I would miss my son to much to stand it long LOL.

                              Just say no...

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