Anyone know the driveshaft length for an xr1 rocket with a falcon transmission?? Trans is regular falcon not roller slide also
XR1 driveshaft length w/Falcon trans
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Falcons and Berts are the same length as the Saginaw 3 and 4 speeds they were developed to replace. The Brinn(most latemodels) are 2" shorter so minus 2" from what ever Rocket set up book says. I'd guess 37" as I think most SLM are 39" with a Brinn,Originally posted by MachineMasters View PostI would guess a 37" shaft would work.
Or swap for that B/G car like the above posted said
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The Bert is the short transmission. Brinn is the Saginaw replacement. I don't know anything about Falcon.Originally posted by Lizardracing View PostFalcons and Berts are the same length as the Saginaw 3 and 4 speeds they were developed to replace. The Brinn(most latemodels) are 2" shorter so minus 2" from what ever Rocket set up book says. I'd guess 37" as I think most SLM are 39" with a Brinn,
I'm fairly certain an XR1 takes a 38" shaft with a Bert.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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Correct. I spoke incorrectly.Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View PostThe Bert is the short transmission. Brinn is the Saginaw replacement. I don't know anything about Falcon.
I'm fairly certain an XR1 takes a 38" shaft with a Bert.
Falcons are popular in the Modifieds and a few SLM around my neighborhood. They are something like a cheaper, Winters made version of the Bert. They have a roller bearing in the housing instead a bushing and require a hardened yoke for best life. Like anything else, they work well if you take care of them. I've had mine for nearly 10 years. I bought it used but had a tooth broken on the input shaft and the previews owner complained of it jumping out of gear. I ground and smoothed the gear tooth and adjusted the shift forks and shifter detents and it's been flawless for me. I have a spare rebuild kit but it's still on the same set of clutches.
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XR1 with std Gen2 Bert trans takes a 37-37.5" (37" preferred) shaft. Gen2 is 21.752" from bell flange face to end of tail shaft. Measure or find your trans length and cypher! No idea how long a Falcon Trans is. I do believe they are rather long, so I'd ESTIMATE a 34-34.5" shaft in an XR1.
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The standard slip-yoke Falcon is about the same length as the Brinn transmission. A Falcon roller-slide is the same length as any Bert transmission, which is about 3" shorter than the Brinn. So depending on which Falcon transmission tail shaft configuration you are using i would go with what CCHIEF described.
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Original Brinn is 21.5" long
Brinn Pro 2 is 21.39"
Original Bert and G2 is 19"
(has option for 2 5/8 longer tail)
GM Saginaw and Muncie 23"
Falcon LM Trans
Standard lenght 22 1/8"
Short tail option 14"
Roller Slide 19.38"-24.88"
Last edited by Lizardracing; 02-25-2020, 09:10 AM.
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