XR1 driveshaft length w/Falcon trans

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  • racert22
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 795

    #1

    XR1 driveshaft length w/Falcon trans

    Anyone know the driveshaft length for an xr1 rocket with a falcon transmission?? Trans is regular falcon not roller slide also
  • racert22
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 795

    #2
    No one knows?? H*lluva tech forum lol

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    • keeks
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 687

      #3
      Too many variables. Get out the tape measure. Give Rocket a call.

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14303

        #4
        Originally posted by racert22 View Post
        No one knows?? H*lluva tech forum lol
        You asked for a Falcon
        Lol
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • JLyons
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 17

          #5
          I have a B/G car with driveshaft in it, I’ll save you the hassle and you bring me the XR1 and I’ll send you with the B/G and I’ll deal with the driveshaft. 😂

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          • keeks
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 687

            #6
            ^^This is the kind of out of the box thinking that this forum is best at.

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            • MachineMasters
              Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 74

              #7
              I would guess a 37" shaft would work.

              Or swap for that B/G car like the above posted said

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              • Lizardracing
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 839

                #8
                Originally posted by MachineMasters View Post
                I would guess a 37" shaft would work.

                Or swap for that B/G car like the above posted said
                Falcons and Berts are the same length as the Saginaw 3 and 4 speeds they were developed to replace. The Brinn(most latemodels) are 2" shorter so minus 2" from what ever Rocket set up book says. I'd guess 37" as I think most SLM are 39" with a Brinn,

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14303

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Lizardracing View Post
                  Falcons and Berts are the same length as the Saginaw 3 and 4 speeds they were developed to replace. The Brinn(most latemodels) are 2" shorter so minus 2" from what ever Rocket set up book says. I'd guess 37" as I think most SLM are 39" with a Brinn,
                  The Bert is the short transmission. Brinn is the Saginaw replacement. I don't know anything about Falcon.

                  I'm fairly certain an XR1 takes a 38" shaft with a Bert.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • Lizardracing
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 839

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                    The Bert is the short transmission. Brinn is the Saginaw replacement. I don't know anything about Falcon.

                    I'm fairly certain an XR1 takes a 38" shaft with a Bert.
                    Correct. I spoke incorrectly.
                    Falcons are popular in the Modifieds and a few SLM around my neighborhood. They are something like a cheaper, Winters made version of the Bert. They have a roller bearing in the housing instead a bushing and require a hardened yoke for best life. Like anything else, they work well if you take care of them. I've had mine for nearly 10 years. I bought it used but had a tooth broken on the input shaft and the previews owner complained of it jumping out of gear. I ground and smoothed the gear tooth and adjusted the shift forks and shifter detents and it's been flawless for me. I have a spare rebuild kit but it's still on the same set of clutches.

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                    • CCHIEF
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 399

                      #11
                      XR1 with std Gen2 Bert trans takes a 37-37.5" (37" preferred) shaft. Gen2 is 21.752" from bell flange face to end of tail shaft. Measure or find your trans length and cypher! No idea how long a Falcon Trans is. I do believe they are rather long, so I'd ESTIMATE a 34-34.5" shaft in an XR1.

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                      • collateralDamage
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 110

                        #12
                        The standard slip-yoke Falcon is about the same length as the Brinn transmission. A Falcon roller-slide is the same length as any Bert transmission, which is about 3" shorter than the Brinn. So depending on which Falcon transmission tail shaft configuration you are using i would go with what CCHIEF described.

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                        • Lizardracing
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 839

                          #13
                          Original Brinn is 21.5" long


                          Brinn Pro 2 is 21.39"


                          Original Bert and G2 is 19"
                          (has option for 2 5/8 longer tail)

                          GM Saginaw and Muncie 23"

                          Falcon LM Trans
                          Standard lenght 22 1/8"
                          Short tail option 14"
                          Roller Slide 19.38"-24.88"
                          Last edited by Lizardracing; 02-25-2020, 09:10 AM.

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