WEIGHT vs HORSEPOWER

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  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14303

    #16
    Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
    Bronson made his name a few years ago, outrunning those limiteds(550-600hp) with his 604! fact!
    People still underestimate the power of corner speed.
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    • perfconn
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3573

      #17
      I'm not a racer,but here are the numbers.Built many of each,so numbers are real.
      Raised runner steelhead-685hp @2400#
      Standard runner Mullins steel head-632hp@ 2300#
      Standard runner Brodix Track 1 aluminum head-649hp @ 2300#
      Don' t need a lot of variables thrown in,just make a choice.All on same tire,all same ci, same carb.

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14303

        #18
        I'd take #3 every day.
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        • billetbirdcage
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2019

          #19
          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
          I'd take #3 every day.
          AGREED!

          message to short adding text here to post, lol

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          • CCHIEF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 399

            #20
            Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
            AGREED! message to short adding text here to post, lol
            Me three on number three!

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            • ZERO25
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 5240

              #21
              On a 50lap slick track, ill take Kyle Bronson and his 604! (not because ima fan)

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              • Mopar DLM
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 216

                #22
                count me in for #3

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                • perfconn
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3573

                  #23
                  Word of caution.If you walked into engine shop & these 3 engines were setting there,all were new & all were the same price,if you had local tracks that did not allow the aluminum head,,then your choice might change.I am asking you to make a choice where these were all legal.
                  Now for zero25.If there were 3 foot ditches every 10 foot I would take Jimmy Owens on a tricycle.

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                  • billetbirdcage
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2019

                    #24
                    Originally posted by perfconn View Post
                    .If there were 3 foot ditches every 10 foot I would take Jimmy Owens on a tricycle.
                    Dan schlieper for the win on that one, He's probably the best I ever seen on bad rough tracks.

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                    • fastford
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4059

                      #25
                      Originally posted by perfconn View Post
                      I'm not a racer,but here are the numbers.Built many of each,so numbers are real.
                      Raised runner steelhead-685hp @2400#
                      Standard runner Mullins steel head-632hp@ 2300#
                      Standard runner Brodix Track 1 aluminum head-649hp @ 2300#
                      Don' t need a lot of variables thrown in,just make a choice.All on same tire,all same ci, same carb.
                      all three have enough hp , but with three identical cars on same track and same driver , its a no brainer , #3 every time for me....its hard to beat eliminating noes weight.....

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                      • President Clinton
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 490

                        #26
                        Originally posted by perfconn View Post
                        I'm not a racer,but here are the numbers.Built many of each,so numbers are real.
                        Raised runner steelhead-685hp @2400#
                        Standard runner Mullins steel head-632hp@ 2300#
                        Standard runner Brodix Track 1 aluminum head-649hp @ 2300#
                        Don' t need a lot of variables thrown in,just make a choice.All on same tire,all same ci, same carb.
                        That’s pretty much limited rules around us, with all aluminum “525” as 4th option.
                        525 wins 98% of the time

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                        • perfconn
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 3573

                          #27
                          In the topless outlaw series last year that has all those engine options,the 525's didn't win a single race.

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14303

                            #28
                            Originally posted by perfconn View Post
                            In the topless outlaw series last year that has all those engine options,the 525's didn't win a single race.
                            What does the 525 have to weigh? How much weight goes in front of the midplate?
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                            • perfconn
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 3573

                              #29
                              WEIGHT
                              • 2250 lbs -604/602/ Flat Tappet Sportsman Engine
                              • 2300 lbs -Standard runner heads (Steel and Aluminum)
                              • 2400 lbs -Raised runner Steelheads
                              • 2350 lbs -CT 525 Crate

                              • CT 525 MUST have 50 lbs in front of bell housing

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                              • billetbirdcage
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 2019

                                #30
                                The thing that hurts the 525 (IMO) is usable RPM not being able to turn more the 7K sort of hurts the torque multiplication from a tall gear to keep rpm in check.

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