bob peirce latemodels

[Canadian]

And make sure that you all race on the same clay/sand/dirt every week, and all live the the same part of the country right !
From Florida to Illinous to Cali to Canada nothing is the same so eveyone will have a different idea what will work best, or if you do as chassis builder says and it doesn't help then what????? That's were the different answers come from most of the times. This is also why we are all here to listen/read other peoples questions and take answers or give them om this board.
They are OPINIONS not law, and everyone can have one.
What works for HMS11 may not work for Fastford or me.
Pros and cons are answers no BASHING people or companys.
Some like Rocket some like Pierce some like Bloomquist because of good or bad dealings.

[supercomet32]

If you do what the manufacturer tells you and its working for 90% of the rest of his drivers your driver needs an adjustment or isnt driving it as intended. you cant run a rayburn balls deep in the corner like you can a rocket that said driving a rocket in like a rayburn doesnt carry the same momentum it needs and doesnt drive the same out. listen to what they tell you in terms of how the car is meant to be driven versus how youve been driving and getting beat.

geometry is geometry no matter what kind of racing surface your on. sure some tracks have more or less grip than others but the same track isnt the same day in and day out. but as far as chassis adjustments and shock adjustment nothing beats a good shock builder with sucess on the tours and nothing beats a reputable builder that not only builds safe and adjustable cars but has a team that is winning for his house car. r&d comes from somewhere and each situation is different but the reasons for all adjustments are the same, j bar provides side bite 4 bars provide rear stear and forward bite adn the driver needs to know how to point the nose and when to/not apply the brakes or throttle and and there is a learning curve....some people just dont listen some dont understand and most try to wing it. not a winning combination so listen to the advice of those that DO.....they didnt win by keyboard jockeying what they thought would or wouldnt work they got it by trying and experiementing with a consistant driving technique or left it alone and adjusted the driver's technique till a match was formed.

[fastford]

i would be willing to bet a person could take all the different chassis mentioned in this post, put lets say a rocket set up on all of them, put the same driver in each car and let him make 10 laps in each , when its over ill bet all his times would be very close and he probably couldnt tell you which chassis was which without looking, then you could put a masters set up on them and recieve the same results, what im saying is there all so much alike that i dont believe the specific builders set up is that much different than the others, therefore i feel the builders set up is a starting point and accounts for about 40%, the rest is up to the driver and that everso important person in the stands watching the car to get the other 60%

[supercomet32]

Its not just the manufacturers setup its the geometry to that setup. if the chassis are all of different geometry then they would be a night and day difference with the same setup on them.

how the car is built with the specific angles and amounts of suspension travel intended is where the differences are at. just getting the scale numbers right and and same springs and shocks wont accomplish the same travel at the same time.