Dry Sump Plumbing Question

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  • perfconn
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3636

    #16
    Thats the right way.

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    • fast_crew
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 844

      #17
      I will add that a 4 stage pump, will need an iron block (alum. blocks usually don't have the best of ring seal when making big power) and very good ring seal to pull a vacuum. 5 stage is alittle more forgiving on ring seal and still be able to pull a vacuum. Never vent the tank back to the engine, just put a breather on it. With a 4stage if block has drains in the lifter valley, pull all 3 scavenge stages from the pan, this would put the vac. where it does the most and aid in oil return, if valley is sealed up rather well, then pull from lifter valley with 1 stage. Alot of guys are putting a fitting/tube in the china wall in the front of the block and running the tube back to the RR corner of the valley. What ever pump and plumbing you decide to use, make sure there is a screen on EACH scavenge section.
      Josh K.

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      • DK1
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 257

        #18
        So tell me if this is correct:

        I have a 5 stage pump, iron block, aluminum heads, and the oil pan only has 2 returns. Going to run 2 lines from the pan, 1 from the valley, and 1 from the ride side valve cover. Run the pop off breathers and vent the tank to a catch can.

        That sound right?

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        • perfconn
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3636

          #19
          Good as it gets.

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          • jrkracing54
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 620

            #20
            Hey Perfconn, do you have any fabricated aluminum valve covers for sale? Used is fine if they are in good shape. Also which ones do you think are the best? I'm running them on a steel block aluminum head NLMS engine. I run a vacuum system that pulls out of the left side header with heater hose. Thanks John 1*
            "Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back."
            — Heraclitus

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            • perfconn
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 3636

              #21
              No covers,sorry.

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              • jrkracing54
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 620

                #22
                Thanks anyway. John 1*
                "Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back."
                — Heraclitus

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                • IROC12
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 9

                  #23
                  Vent can

                  Where the best place to mount vent can.

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                  • perfconn
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3636

                    #24
                    Above and forward of the drysump tank if possible.

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                    • BLAHBLAH
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 338

                      #25
                      drysump system issue.....i switched tank styles after switching car classes. now my drysump system is blowing oil out of the breather tank,,,,,not just a little over two quarts in a 35 lap feature. i had a peterson tank with the built in oberg before, also a deck mounted oil cooler and finned tube line into the feed side of the pump....now i have switched classes and use a sprint car tank with a remote breather.no oil cooler, any ideas why i have an oil issue now?never lost a drop before.

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                      • perfconn
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3636

                        #26
                        Possibly over filling.

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                        • BLAHBLAH
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 338

                          #27
                          i thought that also, so i rechecked the amt of oil i installed, i put in 2-1/2 gallons this is with the complete system drained. oil lines, pan,etc....

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                          • perfconn
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 3636

                            #28
                            There is no set amount for any drysump system because they are all different.Tank needs to be 3/4 full with the engine about 2500rpm.

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                            • BLAHBLAH
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 338

                              #29
                              3 gallon capacity, thinking i am safe with 2.5. i spoke to a friend and he said i may have an issue with the baffleing inside the tank not letting the oil drop quick enough. and creating a splash issue.

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                              • perfconn
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 3636

                                #30
                                Check it with the engine running.

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