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  • RACR_73s
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 879

    #1

    What Would Cause a Car to do This?

    I have a 2005 GRT and the last 2 weeks it has started to pick the LF way up of the ground when I pick up the throttle...especially on the high side. It was picking the LF up the first night out and I was told by another driver to set my LR chain to not exceed 45%...problem solved. Have not changed the setup...what could be some possibilities to look for? Could a shock or spring have gone bad?

    Here is my setup

    Info for 2007 and previous year models:
    RIDE HEIGHTS��(CHASSIS #2938 and before, Standard Front End, Black Spindles)
    LF: 3�� Top of Lower Control Arm & Bottom of Frame (2.5�� on cars with gray spindles)
    RF: 3" Top of Lower Control Arm & Bottom of Frame (2.75�� on cars with gray spindles)
    LR: Will be set with the amount of bite
    RR: 4.25�� Top of lower under slung & Bottom of Axle Tubes

    STANDARD SPRINGS
    LF: 550 RF: 350
    LR Behind: 250 RR: 225

    SHOCKS (MY #'s) SLICK TRACKS
    LF: 75 RF: 75 LF: 5-3 RF: 3-5
    LR: 7-2 STD RR: 94 LR: 7-2 RR: 3-4
    Oil double adjustable afcos

    BITE
    130 LBS LEFT SIDE 54.7% REAR 55.4% (MY %'s)

    TORQUE ARM
    73-6 Shock with 325 pound spring and 75# gas
    Approximately 3�� travel on 36�� center to center(Don't know the travel and mine is 32 c/c)

    REAR END LEAD
    Right rear back 1/4�� to 3/8��(Mine is straight up)

    FRONT END ALIGNMENT:
    CASTER: CAMBER:
    LF: 1.5+ LF: 2.5+
    RF: 3+ RF: 3.5-
    Toe: 1/4 to 1/2 out

    NEW STYLE PANHARD BAR BRACKET
    �� Bottom of Frame to Bottom of Bracket (8 3/8��)
    �� 3rd Notch up on chassis, 2nd notch up on pinion
    �� Panhard bar: 19 1/4�� center to center

    4-BARS (STANDARD)
    Left Lower: 3rd Hole up (6 to 7 Degrees)
    Left Upper: 7th Hole up (23 to 25 Degrees)
    Right Lower: 4th Hole up (Level)
    Right Upper: 5th Hole up (18 to 20 Degrees)

    LR chain set to max at 44 Degrees to keep lf down

    This is as close to GRT setup as I can get with what I have to work with as far as shocks.
    Car weights 2450# and must run on LM40 Hoosiers and has steel block 550-600hp

    ~Thanks~
    Last edited by RACR_73s; 09-02-2012, 11:33 PM.
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  • Matt49
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 3123

    #2
    If nothing is bent or in a bind, I'm guessing your RR shock has gone soft.

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    • RACR_73s
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 879

      #3
      What could be bent or in a bind that would cause it? ~Thanks~
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      • Racer111
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 796

        #4
        Check lr birdcage for a bind..or coilover

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        • RACR_73s
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 879

          #5
          Checked the RR shock today and it seems good. Just ran out and checked both birdcages and they rotate nicely. Thanks for the suggestions and keep them coming.
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          • BTDT
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 122

            #6
            If you are 100% SURE there is no binds of any kind and the shock is good. Go up 25lbs on the RR spring but I am with Matt I think the shock is suspect.

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            • LMracr17x
              Member
              • May 2007
              • 95

              #7
              I'm with them. Either your RR shock is giving up as it heats up, or another alternative is that your LF shock is binding and not allowing the LF tire to keep in contact with the ground. I had this happen once. I thought I was carrying the LF more, but in reality the car was rolling over the same, but the LF shock had gotten dented and wouldn't extend to allow the tire to stay in contact with the ground. Just a couple of ideas. Good-luck.
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              • grt74
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 1380

                #8
                2 things i can think of if everything is free of binds,1st check the angle of your fifth coil and the bottom left bar is up hill alot from your post,just read it again do you have a chain limiter on the lr,the post says rr??you really need a chain on both sides even if it is an under rail car,that is on your bars angle part of the post
                Last edited by grt74; 09-02-2012, 04:21 PM.

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                • dirtdiggerracing
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 153

                  #9
                  could have losed rebound in LR shock or SHOCKS !! JMO

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                  • RACR_73s
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 879

                    #10
                    Originally posted by grt74 View Post
                    2 things i can think of if everything is free of binds,1st check the angle of your fifth coil and the bottom left bar is up hill alot from your post,just read it again do you have a chain limiter on the lr,the post says rr??you really need a chain on both sides even if it is an under rail car,that is on your bars angle part of the post
                    Thanks for pointing that out, it was in the wrong place...I corrected it. My 5th coill is straight up and down like it has been from day one... will check tomorrow to see if it is loose. I do not have a chain on the RR and it is an underail floating X. 6 degrees is alot of angle for bottom left bar? I drop it one for the feature and it was still pulling LF...makes it hard to see car underneath while running the top. ~Thanks~
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                    • merc123
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 1261

                      #11
                      Lay your shock out in the sun for several hours. Then check it. Had a friend had a "good" shock when it was cold but had it laying in the sun and it was bad when it got heat in it.
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                      • RACR_73s
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 879

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dirtdiggerracing View Post
                        could have losed rebound in LR shock or SHOCKS !! JMO
                        Checked all shocks today and replaced the RR just because maybe it might be the problem even though it seems good. The right front seemed to have a soft spot on compression the first couple times I cycled it but I could not get it to repeat...so I changed it also...will try it again tomorrow and see if it does it again. LR shock seemed fine as well as the LF so I did not change them.

                        If I put more rebound in the LR and more compresion in RF and RR would that help? (I have an old set of the oil double adjustable AFCO's)
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                        • RACR_73s
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 879

                          #13
                          What is the correct way to check the car for a bind? ~Thanks~
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                          • jedclampit
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 613

                            #14
                            Did your chain stretch?
                            Is there more grip in the track?

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                            • LITE-INN
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 12473

                              #15
                              ask dirtmod17x he knows it all

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