What's Better? RF Set Up and Drive

[Bcollins82]

Or try and gather input to cut back on time which is what I'm trying to do here.

The info you are seeking is what you test yourself, and pay your shock guy and chassis builder for. Most guys on here don't mind pointing you in the right direction, but most have spent the time and effort to figure out what works best for them, so you aren't going to get very many to give specifics on a national forum. Besides that, you'll get a different answer from every person on this, because as Brian Gray told you, it is mostly about your preferences, and what your car or track needs. As far as your continuous arc vs paperclip theory, that is a generalization and an assumption. Both types of setups win on both types of tracks. You can gain your drive back having the car pinned over, but you'll have to work at it to get that drive and balance back. I will say your traction device (lift arm or pull bar), and the setup on the left side of the car is where I found the most gains having a car pinned over. Good luck!

[DirtRacer9x]

This is the info I was wanting to hear. I'm fairly new to dirt so I'm trying to see how most set ups work on paper and why. Then what is most consistent and why with its pros and cons. I would like your thoughts on the most consistent set up. Pinned or not on rf. Consistent is what I want strictly.

[setup479point2]

You are the wild card . Every driver and every car like different things . I had one car I worked on with 3 different drivers on the same track . Every driver required different springs and bite to get the feel they wanted , every one won races in that car . Even basic setup is different in different parts of the country , I help drivers from all over the country through this forum , what works in the south may not work in the midwest . You have to find , through running and testing , what you like , what your car likes.

[DirtRacer9x]

I think you're not understanding the in depth I'm asking. What is the overall most consistent set up? Meaning do you even look at times every lap and over the course of the race and study why it's falling off? This is what we do on asphalt and so far I haven't seen a trend on dirt AT ALL with anyone doing this.

[setup479point2]

I know what you want , and it doesn't exist . I have 18 drivers across the country , NO 2 are the same setup , frontrunners in multiple classes and many different chassis . For one I tie down , for another its 50/50 , for another its stiff springs , for another soft , for one its no bite , for another 300 lb. . You have to find out what YOU need . Start with what your chassis maker recommends , and go from there. When you start racing and have a problem let us know , plenty of us will help .

[TALON75]

I have six different rf shock sets, and have used more than these six. Dirt racing variables change ten times more than asphalt, you have to change with the conditions. The consistency you want is probably unattainable, but you could try a 375-400, with a 3 compression and 8-10 rebound shock.

[hpmaster]

I think you're not understanding the in depth I'm asking. What is the overall most consistent set up? Meaning do you even look at times every lap and over the course of the race and study why it's falling off? This is what we do on asphalt and so far I haven't seen a trend on dirt AT ALL with anyone doing this.

Dirt is pretty hard isn't it? Won on pavement faster than you have on dirt huh? I won't waste your time or mine explaining this, what you are looking for isn't attainable on dirt. Now you talking down to dirt guys while asking them for help, like we have no concept of trying to figure out why times fall off during a race is in short, NUTS. Having set up winning cars on both dirt and pavement you are exhibiting an extreme case of the first or maybe second year new on dirt buthurt syndrome "I won on pavement and SHOULD be doing better than this on dirt". No instant miracles here, sorry.

[grt74]

I think you're not understanding the in depth I'm asking. What is the overall most consistent set up? Meaning do you even look at times every lap and over the course of the race and study why it's falling off? This is what we do on asphalt and so far I haven't seen a trend on dirt AT ALL with anyone doing this.

track changes to much on dirt,you'll have to compare it to cars that are fast on the day your there,i have a friend that runs asphalt and I've seen what they do when there practicing,in dirt its not so easy,you can be in the ballpark(or even faster for the way the track is when your practicing)but the track may not be the same when you race,were back to test,test,test,also it think your looking for some #'s,your just not going to get them,1 almost all the cars are 1/4 to 1/2" different on the rf or more and thats a factor,2 the cars are getting so equal that no one is going to give up something that is got them up front

[DirtRacer9x]

Well I appreciate the responses. We haven't been struggling like most do that's at we computer with weekly. We're actually very good. But the select few drivers we have come out to our area especially coming up are a tick faster and times don't fall off as much as we have. There are things I've noticed is different with the few cars I can see visually. Shock wise I can see the attitude of what they're doing. Do any of you know what Bloomquist ran In the big race? Statistically I feel pretty confident to say 99% don't and haven't studied what happened that race nor know his times and have watched every lap as the car changed. He made everyone look like a fool. So if someone can relate on this level how and how our team operates feel free to message me and see if we can help one another.