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  • Matt49
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 3123

    #16
    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
    My comment ignores the fact that welds operate as flaws in fatigue. So the steel will eventually fail also.
    We're going down a wormhole but I started the thread so I guess I'll take it where I want :-)

    This is what I kind of had in mind:


    Pretty interesting...

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    • grt74
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 1380

      #17
      totally off subject but i have a friend that owns an industrial fab business and he has shown me the properties of different metals and i will have to say it really surprised me,i will leave it at that,hes an engineer and im not,matt i would run it,i did see it at indy and it looked like a good piece but i would make it part of my weekly maintenance program,at least for a while,also i dont think its been out that long (i think its a newer version),so the feed back may not be there yet
      Last edited by grt74; 12-17-2014, 04:01 PM.

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      • MasterSbilt_Racer
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 14324

        #18
        Originally posted by grt74 View Post
        totally off subject but i have a friend that owns an industrial fab business and he has shown me the properties of different metals and i will have to say it really surprised me,i will leave it at that,hes an engineer and im not,matt i would run it,i did see it at indy and it looked like a good piece but i would make it part of my weekly maintenance program,at least for a while,also i dont think its been out that long (i think its a newer version),so the feed back may not be there yet
        People have a lot of misconceptions about what moly does for them and plenty of other things when it comes to chassis constructions, etc.
        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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        • tworrick
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 135

          #19
          Matt I saw at PIR Show they already have a new one out. Was even more money like 350 and lighter yet.

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          • Matt49
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 3123

            #20
            Originally posted by tworrick View Post
            Matt I saw at PIR Show they already have a new one out. Was even more money like 350 and lighter yet.
            Well I went ahead and ordered the one I linked above. I was already ordering some other stuff from them and figured I'd give it a try.

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            • kiwi1955
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 28

              #21
              I have run the Wehrs for 4 meetings, no problems.

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              • Bubstr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3734

                #22
                When figuring un-sprung weight, any thing that is connected to the chassis, is only figured at half of the weight, is considered un-sprung. This would include J bar, Coil overs, Driveshaft, ect. The things attached to the Axle assy, at the south end of the spring, are figured at full weight, such as wheels, tires, brakes, rotors, bells, tubes, gears ect. Some of the time, what is saved is not enough to make up for loss of strength.

                Someone should invent a new metal called unobtainium, weighs nothing and stronger and harder than Superman's knee cap, and all the weak links will be solved.

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                • Matt49
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 3123

                  #23
                  I weighed a MasterSbilt steel lift bar with all mounting hardware and the Wehrs aluminum. The MasterSbilt was only about 1 pound more so not much weight difference.
                  But I will say this about the Wehrs: it sure is nice looking. Almost a shame nobody's going to see it.
                  Last edited by Matt49; 12-20-2014, 06:22 PM.

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                  • FlatTire
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 560

                    #24
                    I tried to explain this concept a while back and was told to go pound sand. Glad somebody else used their brain and actually compared the aluminum to the steel piece. By the time you get the strength you need in the aluminum part, your weight savings will be gone. This holds true for pretty much any part. For strength, pound per pound, steel can't be beat. Until "unobtainium" is commercially available this will hold true!

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                    • PushinTheLimit
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 465

                      #25
                      It's the same concept on most of the constructions that go on around the world. Everyone would love to use aluminum for their structures, but steel ends up being the best option in many cases.

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #26
                        Originally posted by FlatTire View Post
                        I tried to explain this concept a while back and was told to go pound sand. Glad somebody else used their brain and actually compared the aluminum to the steel piece. By the time you get the strength you need in the aluminum part, your weight savings will be gone. This holds true for pretty much any part. For strength, pound per pound, steel can't be beat. Until "unobtainium" is commercially available this will hold true!
                        Unless Titanium is in the budget!
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • powerslide
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2696

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                          Unless Titanium is in the budget!
                          I think that is his "unobtainium"

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                          • jcm51
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 7

                            #28
                            We run Wehrs everything. Including the lift bar and we've yet to have any issues. Worth the money in our opinion. Ran it with open motors, crate motors, stell headed motors it don't matter.

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                            • powerslide
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2696

                              #29
                              Originally posted by jcm51 View Post
                              We run Wehrs everything. Including the lift bar and we've yet to have any issues. Worth the money in our opinion. Ran it with open motors, crate motors, stell headed motors it don't matter.
                              Where are you from? What tracks do you run? I feel like running in the south on the dirtfalt is waaayy different than banging the cushion at FALS.

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                              • slingindirt83
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 106

                                #30
                                We ran one all year at FALS and had no issues with it. Seems like guys break steel ones around here quite a bit and then it tears up alot of stuff when they do.

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