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  • RacerX10
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 571

    #16
    you're welcome !



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    • TheJet-09
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 1616

      #17
      Is that a small dampner/shock (black threaded body) running vertically from the chassis to the J-Bar? It might be just behind it.

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      • RacerX10
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 571

        #18
        The whole thing looks like somebody walked around the shop, picked up a bunch of crap laying around and started bolting it on the car

        I'm dubious.

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        • RW57
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 662

          #19
          I am no engineer but wait I work on race cars so maybe I am. Looks like to me in simple terms it increases load on the left rear wheel as the bird cage rotates. A friend of mine talked to Chris Madden about his Longhorn and Madden told him it is hands down the best racecar he has ever sat in he could not believe a car would be that good.Now the person he told this is no johnny come lately who once built race car himself. Just thought I would throw this out there.

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14324

            #20
            Originally posted by RW57 View Post
            I am no engineer but wait I work on race cars so maybe I am. Looks like to me in simple terms it increases load on the left rear wheel as the bird cage rotates. A friend of mine talked to Chris Madden about his Longhorn and Madden told him it is hands down the best racecar he has ever sat in he could not believe a car would be that good.Now the person he told this is no johnny come lately who once built race car himself. Just thought I would throw this out there.
            But Madden doesn't have that contraption.
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • fastford
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4059

              #21
              when its available for purchase, it will probably cost more than my whole car,lol. this is starting to make the one shock per corner rule look better and better..........

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              • Lizardracing
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 839

                #22
                Has way too many moving parts to be very reliable. It would require constant attention. Like every other part on your race car isn't already!

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                • fastford
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4059

                  #23
                  I don't know SCD, that looks like a small canister shock hooked to it to me.

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                  • fastford
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4059

                    #24
                    I think your right, probably a way to adjust bite from within the car. but, wouldn't that be illegal ?

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                    • Kromulous
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3008

                      #25
                      I think Stock Car Driver nailed it, cantilever birdcage. Separates the two bars, after the top bar bottoms out against the stop, and then it begins to compress the little shock contraption on the birdcage.

                      It Explains why JD's car's LR is hiked a foot higher than most others on the track. You can look at photos from Florence's North South and see it.

                      Also, get a load at how much preload that LR spring has on it, gees is it a 100lb spring or what?

                      Just say no...

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                      • Kromulous
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 3008

                        #26
                        Still thinking out loud here, but could then intent be to take out rear steer via the LRL bar being head to a certain drop dimension. Then separate the top bar, and allow the rear end to "over index" and create a lot of LRU bar angle, the little shock controls this indexing.


                        This is very interesting ! thanks for that pic.

                        Just say no...

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                        • TS3g
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 201

                          #27
                          So something like this?


                          http://i.imgur.com/t6OCTNe.png - For full size

                          Green = Frame
                          Yellow = Trailing Rods
                          Cyan = Birdcage
                          Red = Cantilever
                          Orange/Yellow = Cantilever Hike Shock
                          Gray/Purple = Cantilever Compression Dampener
                          Pink = Coil-over

                          Obviously not drawn to exact angles/sizes/whatnot. And there's some more going on in the pic on top of the cantilever, but I can't tell what it is
                          Last edited by TS3g; 11-25-2015, 03:57 PM.

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                          • RW57
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 662

                            #28
                            Did not know Madden did not have that on his car.Maybe on Davenport car that's what they want you see so you won't see what is really going on.I have done this myself before to keep people from seeing what I am really doing.That'sa pretty good statement looks like a bunch of crap they had laying around and just welded it up. Two different people who saw Madden at Cleveland were telling me how Maddens car kept the nose flat all the way thru corner and down straightaways.They said there was not another car there that looked like his and it looked like his car turned with the front end and was not all dumped over on.RF That's the same thing as Davenport has done all year.I had another friend who got to measure a Longhorn bare chassis he said it not a lot different than any thing else out there.He did say though the lower a frames were different than anything else out there he said they do not flex and have extra bars thru out the chassis.
                            Last edited by RW57; 11-25-2015, 04:45 PM.

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #29
                              I think you have it, TS3g. Looks like what I saw.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                              • 25drtrkr
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2015
                                • 856

                                #30
                                Why the two heims mounted to the bottom of the birdcage? I know one is the trailing arm, but what is the other attached to? Looks like theres a bracket welded to both tubes.
                                Lions don't worry about the opinions of sheep.

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