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  • rakracing
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 218

    #31
    what interests me is the stacked lr spring , and the lrf shock location and mounting

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    • QQQQ
      Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 92

      #32

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      • rakracing
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 218

        #33
        look past the head of the lr shock, theres a threaded body there not shur what im seeing. original picture

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        • colt45
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 16

          #34
          Cantilever setup where you can control steer and hike independently? Maybe Im wrong but I think this is what they are doing.

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          • RW57
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 662

            #35
            Does anybody remember the custom chassis cantalever set up that Freddy Smith used to dominate with years ago he was just about unbeatable for a while with it.I think its the same type deal but more refined.

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            • Austin34471
              Senior Member
              • May 2010
              • 174

              #36
              Originally posted by QQQQ View Post
              ....anyone see the jbar in this pic? I don't

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              • Necrosis
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 379

                #37
                Originally posted by Austin34471 View Post
                ....anyone see the jbar in this pic? I don't
                Because a J-bar is not necessary. There is more than one way to skin a cat. The biggest thing anyone can learn from this, is not what the device is/does, but that you shouldn't let linguistics define the box that you think in. And for that, we are all guilty. Bottom line, your time is spent best not copying, but by removing any and all barriers in your thought process. This includes language. Dirt cars don't speak English, they speak the same language engineers do. Physics.

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                • rakracing
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2014
                  • 218

                  #38
                  great post Necrosis, I believe I see a jbar in the first picture directly behind the spring steel .

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                  • hucktyson
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 1903

                    #39
                    Davensnort didn't win every race with this contraption and the races he lost were lost to guys running regular 4 links. Davensnort wouldn't have won half as many if he wasn't one of the top 3 guys in the country at hammering the cushion. There's stupid speed in the cushion if you hit it right and a junk race car if you don't . He's VERY good at running the cushion. I can see a lot of people wasting a lot of time and money tying to copy this ...

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                    • Lizardracing
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 839

                      #40
                      ...as far as the J bar goes.....some sort of lateral locating device is required unless it's a triangulated four link.

                      The recipe for success is a good equipment, quality financial backing, and a good driver. All those guys on the premier level have the first two. In order to compete at the top level a number some of the things are required. Sacrifice of your life, competitive drive, willingness to let it kill you, focus, natural ability, and refined skills from practicing perfectly. I'd say it more likely that Davenport biggest advantage is some combination of the above rather than a bolt on device. I think it looks like a travel limiter to me with a damper.

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                      • Punisher88
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2014
                        • 495

                        #41
                        I think the lr front shock is attached either to the j bar or pinion..

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                        • Austin34471
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 174

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Necrosis View Post
                          Because a J-bar is not necessary. There is more than one way to skin a cat. The biggest thing anyone can learn from this, is not what the device is/does, but that you shouldn't let linguistics define the box that you think in. And for that, we are all guilty. Bottom line, your time is spent best not copying, but by removing any and all barriers in your thought process. This includes language. Dirt cars don't speak English, they speak the same language engineers do. Physics.
                          Must be running a Mumford link

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                          • stevo
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 622

                            #43
                            This looks like the thing LeCroy ran on his Rayburn that he won hundreds of races in. He used swing arm when wet and when track slowed down he went to 4 bar behind with this, in the Discovery race at Spring city I helped him that nite and when feature came he put it on because they were not going to water track before feature,then at last minute they watered it, but it was August and he left it on. Works best when you are hunting traction. But he had several rubber round things not a hock,he says rubbers are springs.

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                            • SuperEight
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 318

                              #44
                              Originally posted by RW57 View Post
                              Does anybody remember the custom chassis cantalever set up that Freddy Smith used to dominate with years ago he was just about unbeatable for a while with it.I think its the same type deal but more refined.
                              When I first started helping a friend of mine, his father had one of those reverse cantilever cars, but those are different animals than this. The custom deal looked like this picture below.
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                              Left 4M and Dirt Late Model racing, 04/12/2016 @12:06AM.

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                              • Len72P
                                Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 44

                                #45
                                Interesting angle on the 4 bars. I know its a picture , but they look within 5 degrees at top 45 bott. 40. On my computer software the fwd. steer is almost the same as std. bar positions if I shorten the bottom rod 1 1/2 inch. HMMM?

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