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  • Matt49
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 3123

    #16
    a25rjr, were you able to identify how deep into the bump you were? I think that's the key thing on the xmas tree stuff and I would imagine it was integral to your success with it. To grt74's point: homework! But RE does a great job of providing the data so back to my point of not needing a spring smasher.

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    • a25rjr
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 3774

      #17
      Honestly, no. With our car on the scales, we tried a couple of different springs and bump stops and ended up with this combination. Jerry at Shy helped us tune our Ohlins to it, and it was even better.

      Its amazing what you can learn with ratchet straps and your car on scales! lol
      Last edited by a25rjr; 04-14-2016, 09:13 PM.
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      • Matt49
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 3123

        #18
        Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
        Honestly, no. With our car on the scales, we tried a couple of different springs and bump stops and ended up with this combination. Jerry at Shy helped us tune our Ohlins to it, and it was even better.

        Its amazing what you can learn with ratchet straps and your car on scales! lol
        For sure :-)
        And amazing how one can benefit from a good relationship with a good shock builder. I've been preaching this for a while.

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        • RacerX10
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 571

          #19
          Opinions seem to vary wildly on the subject of how hard it is or isn't to get a bump setup working

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          • a25rjr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 3774

            #20
            Originally posted by Matt49 View Post
            For sure :-)
            And amazing how one can benefit from a good relationship with a good shock builder. I've been preaching this for a while.
            No doubt, Matt! I hope Jerry can keep up with the relationships he made at Shy. He'll def put Afco back on the map with their shock program.
            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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            • grt74
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1380

              #21
              Originally posted by RacerX10 View Post
              Opinions seem to vary wildly on the subject of how hard it is or isn't to get a bump setup working
              its just alot of work,and every driver is different,some want more drive and the ones that like to stay on the gas like less drive(momentum type drivers),i know this I've never had any of the guys i have helped run the exact same thing,shocks are a very big factor in these setups,thats why i build my own stuff to an extent(ill get the curves i want from my builder,because i don't want to spend three days trying to find it, but i may change my shim stack for more or less control)the biggest problem that most people don't understand with double adjustable shocks is that there is only a 150lbs to 200lbs worth of adjustment,sometimes thats just not enough,
              these setups will require good notes,your not going to win with these setups right out of the box unless you test it and get it where you want it
              some of the national guys have 5-10 rf shocks or more and there all adjustable,if that tells you anything
              Last edited by grt74; 04-14-2016, 11:26 PM.

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              • JustAddDirt
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1893

                #22
                if you do not have access to data acquisition, spring smashers etc,etc, a go pro camera works well, and they are relatively inexpensive. I play with one watching the RF to get it to do what I want, when I want. I watch the pull bar (I run a modified) and watch the lr and lf suspension. you can learn a great deal watching that stuff.
                once you get a visual on where the suspension is moving to in travel, you can somewhat get the same attitude on the scales and get a good idea what the numbers are and start playing with LR droop, spring combos, bar settings weight placement. you cannot get it exact on the scales to track comparisons, but some data is netter than none
                Last edited by JustAddDirt; 04-15-2016, 08:49 AM.
                I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                • fastford
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4059

                  #23
                  Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                  No doubt, Matt! I hope Jerry can keep up with the relationships he made at Shy. He'll def put Afco back on the map with their shock program.
                  jerry has practically unlimited resources now that hes at afco , he has helped me tremendously, but you have to be able to explain to him exactly what you want or need to do. With out proper info from the driver, no one can work magic......

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                  • let-r-eat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2319

                    #24
                    Why is that car attitude faster? That's the question you need to answer OP.
                    BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                    • a25rjr
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 3774

                      #25
                      More: aerodynamic, increased downforce
                      : loaded left rear, increased forward bite
                      : more roll steer, allowing car to turn better when on the gas
                      Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                      • grt74
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1380

                        #26
                        Originally posted by let-r-eat View Post
                        Why is that car attitude faster? That's the question you need to answer OP.
                        aero,it will almost create a suction effect on the car,you want to keep as much air as you can from getting under the car,and then use the air thats hits the car(think of all the money we spend on going faster when air is free if you understand how to use it)

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