01 Rayburn on swing with lift arm

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  • Fireracer18
    Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 40

    #1

    01 Rayburn on swing with lift arm

    Here's what I got 01 Rayburn have lf 550# spring rf 500# or 275 on swing arm RR is 325 on swing arm lift arm with 300# spring has j bar shocks are 1375 afco on front 1395 afco on rear 1373 on lift arm have standard Rayburn bar lengths left rear bar all way down right rear bar all way up weights are real close to right on per Rayburn don't have scale info in front of me have 6 inch bs wheels on rf and RR can go back to 5 on rf problem is carvis tight on entry can seem to make rotate from middle out it pushes like a freight train was told to increase rear stagger at 3 and 1/2 inches now its only 6 night I drove this car have ran decent in a older Rayburn that was 4 bar track is a 3/8 medium banked track usually dry slick any set up help would be helpful thanks
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #2
    You could always increase left side percentage and remove lf spring.

    I can't help but think something is bound up, front end settings are out of whack, or a brake issue such as larger pistons on right side of car. Those rear bar angles shouldn't work at all.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • Fireracer18
      Member
      • Jul 2016
      • 40

      #3
      Rf brake is shut off calipers are free and retract and are same size as lefts steering rack seems very firm maybe bad pump or rack thanks for any and all suggestions any one have a good set up

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      • Fireracer18
        Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 40

        #4
        Thanks masters built racer for the suggestion's

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        • RCJ
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 509

          #5
          I would put a softer l/f spring in also.Might then soften both front springs

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          • Fireracer18
            Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 40

            #6
            Rcj would you go to let's say the 500 lf and a 450 to even a 425 rf

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            • RCJ
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 509

              #7
              It would depend on how much of a change I thought I needed.But want you have suggested sounds good.

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              • Fireracer18
                Member
                • Jul 2016
                • 40

                #8
                What if I were to put the 500 on rf and 450 on the lf and does any one have any set ups besides cj for a banked 3/8 track thanks in advance

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                • JustAddDirt
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1893

                  #9
                  If I remember right, Eldora's hot set up was 400 pound springs on all corners.
                  I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                  • billetbirdcage
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2020

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JustAddDirt View Post
                    If I remember right, Eldora's hot set up was 400 pound springs on all corners.
                    That would be correct, thinking the year was around 97 or 98 but should have been long rear arms and long right side panhard bar also.

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                    • Fireracer18
                      Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 40

                      #11
                      I've herd of the 400# springs all the way around also know a guy running a 900# RR spring on a Rayburn and he was fast

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                      • MLR19
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 475

                        #12
                        Raise LR bar & lower RR Bar it will be very tight with the bars where you have them now.

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                        • Fireracer18
                          Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 40

                          #13
                          Thanks mlr19 I will change that should I add any rear steer or leave it

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                          • MLR19
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 475

                            #14
                            We always started square and just use bar adjustments to tighten. If all mounts are original I would do the following on spring rates:

                            LF 500 RF 525 (or 500 if you dont have a 525)
                            LR 275 RR 275 on Birdcage or 500 on swingarm
                            240 lbs LR
                            54.5% LS
                            56 - 57% rear
                            3.5" to 4" of stagger

                            Start LR bar 2 holes up from bottom
                            Start RR 1 hole up from bottom

                            If its tight on entry go down on LF spring rate at least 50 lbs
                            to tighten off the corner raise rr bar1 hole at a time, if car is coming off the corner straight & you just need more drive, start softening LR spring 200 usually works well on slick. Make sure to put wedge back to 240 when changing springs.

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                            • pickel
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 202

                              #15
                              MLR19,
                              When you say bar, I assume your referring to trailing arms. If so, what were your Swing Arm angles? Thank you for posting this info!

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