Extremely high rear bite numbers?

[Dirt_Buster]

Statically we get basics of a set up but we set the cars up dynamically bud. You're stuck in the asphalt days. Like I said you're young and still have A LOT to learn. Sit back and watch and learn. Trust me

[7uptruckracer]

Someone who understands. AndMe being young has nothing to do with it. I've been around it since I was real young and I know what IKnow from experience, from countless hours on the scales. Most people stick with what hasWorked for them, which is alright but yourNot gonna get faster if your setup is always the same.You can adjust all four corners and leave the rifled height the same while raising or lowering bite and front split. You can also raise the rear (both sides) not equally a take split out or put split in without moving bite. Same goes for the front or for the left side or for the right side. Remember NUMBERS don't lie. And like I said with the exception on cross the percentages are static weight numbers. They do not change unless you move or add/ subtract weight.

. http://www.auto-ware.com/setup/wtdstxwt.htm Please educate yourselves lol geezus christ you can also call intercomp longacre etc and get told the same.

[Bdcase19]

I'm curious if you know the difference in meaning between static and dynamic? Yes you can move wheel weights with jack bolts, but when setting up the car unless you have a chassis dyno it is always static. Seems to me that you need to watch and learn. There is no sense in argueing with someone that knows it all. I have done it tried it on the race track seen it work. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that. I also know of someone that is doing it now and kicking ass. Has over 200 wins and still winning.

[stock car driver]

I hate to break it to ya "stock car driver" but yes, yes they do gain drive with stiffer rf but also like stiffening the lr tightens car on entry. We have ran our car both ways lf heavy and rf heavy car is a lot more driveable but like I said you have to know how to scale the car and keep bite down while scaled lf heavy. And no you can keep cross in the car and take bite out. But there is no sense in argueing with you because you seem like someone who knows it all.

Welcome to the forum new guy. Congrats you ran your car both ways! That's awesome. Ive ran cars at 90 different tracks in 8 different classes in my 22 years or racing. I think Ive had 15 different cars appox.


What are you talking about you have to know how to keep bite down while wanting lf heavy? the more lf weight you crank into your car the less bite you have, lol. and less cross also if you want to talk about cross also even though in dirt track racing we reference BITE not cross.

You need to read my post much more slowly apparently

[stock car driver]

Lmao. So you mean to tell me if I set my ride height on my rr and take my 225 out and put my 250 in and take turns out to get my ride height back the numbers won't change a bit? Lol they will be completely different!! If you change one spring and the other three don't move I would look into getting a new car. Usually as you up or lower bite cross will go up and down with it but you can change it more with lead placement. How can you tell me bite and cross are the same when they have to do with different wheel weights.

your wrong again, wow, we love it when new guys come here and know it all cus they stand around some guys pits.

Who are you annoying by standing around in Iowa? I know a few people in Iowa.... And have a few wins and stock car shootout championship in Iowa.

you can put any spring in any corner of your car and re adjust and get all 4 number back to the exact same that's the point of having weight jacks.

[Bdcase19]

Oh Jeff just because you won a few races at osky against some good competition and some races other places against a bunch of nobodies does not mean your fast. It's obvious now why your stock car always had the lf in the air because you don't know how to keep bite down and keep weight on the lf. (While having a heavier rf Spring.)

[Bdcase19]

Please explain to me how you can set a ride height and then change springs and set the ride height back and have the same wheel weight. Lmao it don't work like that. The weight will be different at the same height because the rate of the spring is either lower or higher.

[stock car driver]

Oh Jeff just because you won a few races at osky against some good competition and some races other places against a bunch of nobodies does not mean your fast. It's obvious now why your stock car always had the lf in the air because you don't know how to keep bite down and keep weight on the lf. (While having a heavier rf Spring.)

why would I need the bite down I was a top 4 car any where I went for 8 years in home made junk 34 wins is pretty decent racing against the best of the best at special events mostly.

[Bdcase19]

Just because it was home made don't mean it was junk. It was still made on a jig. As long as everything is straight and the car flexes like it's supposed to bar location means nothing with the exception on rear spring bar. My point I'm trying to get across is that what I'm saying CAN be done. No I don't race a car nor am I commenting on how to. I am simply stating that these things can be done. I do help and scale cars of what I believe are some of the fastest guys in Iowa. (I may be biased but still) Obviously there is a lot of fast people in Iowa but these two or three could go to any one race track in the county and win. I can only recall twice when you and I as well as one of my drivers was at a track and you finished top 4. And once you won and once you got third. 34 wins in 8 years that's good yeah lol. When we used to race 3-4 nights a week we had almost that many wins in one season.

[7uptruckracer]

Please explain to me how you can set a ride height and then change springs and set the ride height back and have the same wheel weight. Lmao it don't work like that. The weight will be different at the same height because the rate of the spring is either lower or higher.

this is literally the dumbest thing I've seen posted here ever. Please please post this on the LM forum so more people can see it we enjoy a laugh

[7uptruckracer]

Please explain to me how you can set a ride height and then change springs and set the ride height back and have the same wheel weight. Lmao it don't work like that. The weight will be different at the same height because the rate of the spring is either lower or higher.

15,000 pound spring (yes you read it correctly) out of the RR of a cup car at Martinsville. By your theory I would have a hellacious wheel weight there because somehow it's created weight just sitting on the scales actually click on the links that were listed and get an education before you embarrass yourself anymore bite and cross are the same you've just pressed a different button on the scale so it reads in a format the user wants. That's why the ride height adjustments are the same for both......if I have 500 RR weight and 4" ride height I can put any spring I want as long as it's at a 4" ride height the wheel weight is the same how in the hell do you think a spring smasher works you take your center to center measurement on your coil over while its at ride height load it into the machine crank it to that center to center and read your load number. You change your spring or bump package and crank it back to that center to center. If your load number is different you know you need to adjust your collar until your load number is the same so when you put it back in the car your ride height and bite are the same THATS WHY YOU BUY THEM. That's the only thing you need to disprove your magic carpet theory

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

this is literally the dumbest thing I've seen posted here ever. Please please post this on the LM forum so more people can see it we enjoy a laugh

Maybe he is confusing ride height with adjuster height? Maybe...

[7uptruckracer]

Still doesn't justify how he thinks a spring change will change weight, for the same ride height because he is saying hes resetting ride height and still doesn't justify how he thinks Bite and Cross are different lol what can you do except hope he never gets a late model and stays in Super Streets.

[Bdcase19]

If you put a 200 lb spring and a 225lb spring in a spring dyno and compress them both to 1 inch the numbers are going to be the same? I think not! Even 2 inches one will be 400lbs and one will be 450lbs. Just like if I was to replace my rf 1100lb spring to 1200lb spring and set the ride height back to 7 1/2 inches the wheel weight will not be the same and neither will any other numbers. If that was the case why would people need to scale their cars they could just set ride heights and every number would be the exact same. As far as cross and bite they are not the same there is only one wheel weight that has anything to do with both. Cross will help turn the car. Bite tightens the car up. It's obvious.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

If you put a 200 lb spring and a 225lb spring in a spring dyno and compress them both to 1 inch the numbers are going to be the same? I think not! Even 2 inches one will be 400lbs and one will be 450lbs. Just like if I was to replace my rf 1100lb spring to 1200lb spring and set the ride height back to 7 1/2 inches the wheel weight will not be the same and neither will any other numbers. If that was the case why would people need to scale their cars they could just set ride heights and every number would be the exact same. As far as cross and bite they are not the same there is only one wheel weight that has anything to do with both. Cross will help turn the car. Bite tightens the car up. It's obvious.

*facepalm*