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  • 14flower
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 262

    #1

    hyd. vs soild heads?

    i have ran my 2300 and like the performance i have but tried of being mid pack i have a heart shaped closed chamber head mill max. stock size valves and a .479 hyd. cam from racerwalsh. and it just doesnt seem to keep up. how much more would i gain going solid and more lift? or do i just need to get another hyd. cam?
    jared flower
  • Old Rob
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1027

    #2
    What are your rules in regard to cam specs. Also are you geared correctly. You may need a tough more gear.

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    • mustang99
      Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 39

      #3
      hyd. vs solid heads?

      Originally posted by 14flower View Post
      i have ran my 2300 and like the performance i have but tried of being mid pack i have a heart shaped closed chamber head mill max. stock size valves and a .479 hyd. cam from racerwalsh. and it just doesnt seem to keep up. how much more would i gain going solid and more lift? or do i just need to get another hyd. cam?
      we'll depends on the size track u are running...and the rpms u are turning,,,and what gears and transmission,,u have,,,,but in my opinion,,,,solid is better,,,just as long as the rules let u run them.i've tried both and solid is better the downside is u have to check the adjust on them often.but racerwalsh cams the 450 solid lift cam is the biggest u can go with stock length valves.but u can check with esslinger racing,they have bigger cams that u can use with stock length valves,,but with there cams u have to cut or mill your lifter boss down for the esslinger lifters to work.but the racerwalsh cams offer drop in solid lifters for there cams,,but like i said,, a 450 solid cam is the biggest cam racerwalsh has to run with solid lifters.

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      • 14flower
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 262

        #4
        a small 1/4 and big 1/4 mile. and i can do anything i want to a any cast iron head no aluminum and no porting bowl work allowed. and idk what best rpm to run a 2.3 with 5,2 rods? ive been turning 7700
        jared flower

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        • 14flower
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 262

          #5
          a small 1/4 and big 1/4 mile. and i can do anything i want to a any cast iron head no aluminum and no porting bowl work allowed. and idk what best rpm to run a 2.3 with 5,2 rods? ive been turning 7700 and running the same gear as everyone else.
          jared flower

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          • Milford Motorsports
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 285

            #6
            I have built a lot of engines for a lot of different people and the biggest complaint is I don't have enough power to run with the top dogs,even though their cars drive like a dump truck.Push your set up to the max first,then look for more HP.

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            • 14flower
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 262

              #7
              ok but everyone im running against has 2.5 to 2.6s with .620 rollers so im lacking power just trying to figure how to spend my money i have to upgrade my eninge the best i can for as least as i can.
              jared flower

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              • Dan32
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 302

                #8
                there's no real cheap way to go fast y

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                • engineczar
                  Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 34

                  #9
                  One of the problems that jumps out is trying to turn 7700rpms with a hydraulic cam. Those two numbers just don't jive. The motor might be spinning that high but it's certainly not making any power.

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                  • 14flower
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 262

                    #10
                    what rpms should i try to have then at then end of the striaght away? and that somehing else i was wondering what rpm max should i turn with that set and a 5.2 bottom end?
                    jared flower

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                    • 14flower
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 262

                      #11
                      and dan not trying to be cheap about just trying to not change stuff i dont need to. and trying to learn y i have to do something to get what i want. and understand y i did it.
                      jared flower

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                      • engineczar
                        Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 34

                        #12
                        What Racer Walsh cam are you currently running?

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                        • 14flower
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 262

                          #13
                          there .479 lift hyd. cam
                          jared flower

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                          • 14flower
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 262

                            #14
                            and old rob i have no cam rules can even run the volvo head if i wanted.
                            jared flower

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                            • engineczar
                              Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 34

                              #15
                              The .479 hyd listed has 230@.05 duration which is only going to make power to around 6000 rpms. maybe less. Above that it really stops pulling. Also the 112 lobe centers isn't doing you any favors on a 1/4 mile track.

                              The big question is how much to spend on your head. If the cam rule is wide open and the budget is there then a solid roller is going to make the most power but the price tag is steep.

                              Is the money there to convert the head to a solid lifter? If so something in the 245-250@.05 range and 106 lobe centers would be quite helpful.

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