Blowing oil out of breathers

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  • 2Impressive
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 26

    #1

    Blowing oil out of breathers

    We are having an issue of blowing oil out the valve cover breathers. We even ran a hose off the valve cover to a fill can with a breather on it and it's filling the can with oil and blowing oil out of that breather as well. We are having to add 2-3 quarts of oil throughout the night not to mention the mess. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
  • Fox_hunter42
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 570

    #2
    sounds like bad rings or scratched cylinders

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    • Confused?
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 418

      #3
      Time for a rebuild
      Bill W. and Dr. Bob......who could have known.

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      • 2Impressive
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 26

        #4
        Was hoping that wasn't the issue, only 300 laps since rebuild

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        • backspace
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 984

          #5
          Run a leak down test and see for sure
          We build fast race cars,,not race cars fast!

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          • JustAddDirt
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1893

            #6
            Check to see if the slits in the valve cover were the filer goes on have been opened up to let oil go into motor faster when oil is changed.
            If not sounds like a lot of excessive blow by, crankcase pressure.
            I race at one track that I have that problem, but only at the one track. Long straights, tight turns.
            I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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            • Krooser
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 3117

              #7
              Too much oil staying on top? Check your drain backs on the head... are your valve cover breathers baffled?
              Member of the Luxemburg Speedway Hall of Fame
              Class of 2019

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              • 25jrjr
                Senior Member
                • May 2017
                • 386

                #8
                Wouldn't his spark plugs be coated with oil if that much was getting by the rings? I cant imagine the motor even running with that much blow-by!

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                • modstar
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 339

                  #9
                  I'm a crew for 2imp. this motor has had this issue since it was new. It has the orig. spark plugs. we are thinking about trying the crankcase evac kit from day mtrsprts, that hooks to the headers. leakdown test sounds like a good idea before we go any further. thanks everyone.

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                  • dirtracr33
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 278

                    #10
                    total seal rings?
                    powerslave

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                    • LateModel B23
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 283

                      #11
                      I have one doing the same once it gets to speed. Compression is good, leak down is good, plugs are good. Was going to try different valve covers Sat. night but it rained out.

                      Let me add - motor has 62 laps around Devils Bowl, 20w50 Valvoline, alk for fuel. Total Seal conventional rings.
                      Last edited by LateModel B23; 06-11-2017, 09:03 PM.

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                      • billetbirdcage
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2020

                        #12
                        Many times (if the engine don't have excessive blow by thus excessive crankcase pressure) it's the breather system:

                        Too high a velocity of air coming out of breather area, this doesn't allow the oil droplets to drop out of the air before making it all the way out of the breather system. Think of it this way: You have air/oil droplet mixture in the crankcase volume, if the air is going 100MPH out the breather it won't un-suspend the oil from the air and take the oil out with the air. Now slow the air down to 10MPH and the oil will drop out of the air before it makes it out of the breather system.

                        People stick stuff in the breathers to try and separate the oil but are blocking or restricting the air movement and thus increasing the velocity of the air compounding the problem. I have seen too small a hole in the valve cover under the breather stand cause this and just opening the hole up to reduce the velocity can/does stop this.

                        Ideally you'd like a large diameter area and something reasonable tall that allows time for the weight of the oil to make it fall out of suspension and not come out with the air as the engine allows the crankcase pressure to escape.

                        Also make sure if your using an external breather that the line doesn't have a dip in it. Oil can accumulate in the line slowly at the dip and once it blocks the line the air will push the entire volume of oil out cause it's blocked by the puddle of oil in the dip in the line.

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                        • Fox_hunter42
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 570

                          #13
                          odd question but, what side of motor are breathers on?

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                          • let-r-eat
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2319

                            #14
                            Coming from both Driver Side breathers or just one? Blow by generally effects both breathers and oil control often just one.
                            BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                            • LateModel B23
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 283

                              #15
                              Drivers side rear on the one I am working on. But the front one is not totally dry either.

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