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  • TeamGRT12x
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 911

    #16
    I've never owned a car that was 1 turn lock to lock. Mostly 1.5 turns lock to lock. I don't really pay attention. I would put a sweet box on there if it is a huge problem but most of the stuff I run is 8-1 with the quickener and 605 box.

    Why can't you put the correct pittman arm on a 605 for an Impala? We did it back in 03 with a Kraft Kar. Everything was IMCA Legal as well.
    Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not.

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    • stock car driver
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 3233

      #17
      sg a16561

      advanced auto parts
      Last edited by stock car driver; 11-21-2011, 03:02 PM.

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      • LM14
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 490

        #18
        Jeff,

        What is your steering effort like with that box and a 2:1 speeder?

        Thanks,
        SPark

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        • TeamGRT12x
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 911

          #19
          Are you on a KSE pump? I'm confused as to whether you're looking for a faster steering or an easier steering now.
          Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not.

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          • LM14
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 490

            #20
            We want close to 1 turn lock to lock, with a 2:1 speeder. Fast but light effort.

            The problem is you can get to the point you overwhelm the pump output with the speed of the box being doubled. Sweet site says to use their lightest valve with their 12:1 box and a 2:1 speeder of the feel will be very heavy.

            We have Sweet pumps on both cars.

            Thanks,
            SPark

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            • stock car driver
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 3233

              #21
              krc pumps with alum canister attatched are what I use and that box and 2-1 on metric spindles.

              It feels fine for me. I believe you can change the valve in the aluminum ps pumps to change the feel... Ive never done that and not sure how to describe feel. I feel I have a good feeling for the steering because I noticed the difference on the track between a 2.5 and 3.5 box right away.

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              • LM14
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 490

                #22
                Thanks, Jeff. I ordered one last night, got 15% off plus free shipping!

                Saw you run at Bloomfield this summer, you had a pretty good night so your steering must have been working fine!

                SPark

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                • stock car driver
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 3233

                  #23
                  Originally posted by LM14 View Post
                  Thanks, Jeff. I ordered one last night, got 15% off plus free shipping!

                  Saw you run at Bloomfield this summer, you had a pretty good night so your steering must have been working fine!

                  SPark
                  Did you order it from Advanced or someplace else? Will you still get the lifetime warranty?

                  Bloomfied was easily the biggest win Ive had in my opinion. Some very tough cars in the field and all 5-6 that started in front of me were multi time champions.. I thought about selling everything for a few days after that win.

                  I junked my car out the next race night, took it to the scrap yard, lol.

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                  • LM14
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 490

                    #24
                    Used Advance like you recommended. Should have it Monday to try out!

                    SPark

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                    • stock car driver
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 3233

                      #25
                      Originally posted by LM14 View Post
                      Used Advance like you recommended. Should have it Monday to try out!

                      SPark
                      I always put them in the vise and confirm they are 2.5 or so turns lock to lock. It took me a dozen boxes ordered in to get the fastest one originally, so far this number has always been correct from Advanced, but I had Napa cross this number once and the box that came was 3.25 lock to lock.

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                      • Dirtrunner35
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 632

                        #26
                        GM/Saginaw quick-ratio steering box donor car cheat sheet

                        Late Model 12.7:1 quick-ratio gearbox ID markings YA, WS and HX Line Thread Size: M18x1.5 and M16x1.5 Number of Mounting Holes: 3, (missing leg H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: ¾-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 2 ½ - 3 1984-'88 Monte Carlo/Malibu with Z65 suspension 1983-'88 Malibu, El Camino 1982-'92 Camaro except FE1 soft ride suspension 1984-'87 Regal with FE2 or FE3 sport suspension 1983-'84 Hurst/Olds 1985-'87 Cutlass with 5.0 (VIN code 9) 1982-'85 Trans Am 1986-'92 Firebird except FE1 suspension 1986-'87 Grand Prix with FE2 touring or F41 heavy duty suspension

                        Pre-'76 12.7:1 quick-ratio gearbox Line Thread Size: 11/16 x 18 and 5/8 x 18 Number of Mounting Holes: 4, (H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: 13/16-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 2 ½ - 3 1967-'76 Camaro, Firebird 1970-'76 Monte Carlo/Malibu 1964-'76 Chevelle

                        1977-'79 12.7:1 quick-ratio gearbox Line Thread Size: 11/16 x 18 and 5/8 x 18 Number of Mounting Holes: 3, (missing leg H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: ¾-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 2 ½- 3 1977-'79 Camaro, Firebird 1977-'79 Monte Carlo, Malibu 1977-'79 Chevelle

                        Jeep/S-10 14.0:1 quick ratio gearbox Line Thread Size: M18x1.5 and M16x1.5 Number of Mounting Holes: 3, (missing leg H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: ¾-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 3 - 3 ½ 1991-'92 Fleetwood 1992-'95 Grand Cherokee 1984-'93 Comanche 1984-'95 Cherokee/Wagoneer 1983-'86 Bonneville 1982-'93 2WD S-10 Blazer and pickup

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                        • Dirtrunner35
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 632

                          #27
                          Originally posted by stock car driver View Post
                          sg a16561

                          advanced auto parts
                          What vehicle does that fit ? The # 1282 is 2.5 turns lock to lock
                          Last edited by Dirtrunner35; 02-09-2012, 09:54 PM.

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                          • Dirtrunner35
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 632

                            #28
                            I don't buy junk yard parts either, 1282 is advance part number for a gear box with 2. 5 half turn lock to lock

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