Steering Box Question

[TeamGRT12x]

I've never owned a car that was 1 turn lock to lock. Mostly 1.5 turns lock to lock. I don't really pay attention. I would put a sweet box on there if it is a huge problem but most of the stuff I run is 8-1 with the quickener and 605 box.

Why can't you put the correct pittman arm on a 605 for an Impala? We did it back in 03 with a Kraft Kar. Everything was IMCA Legal as well.

[stock car driver]

sg a16561

advanced auto parts

[LM14]

Jeff,

What is your steering effort like with that box and a 2:1 speeder?

Thanks,
SPark

[TeamGRT12x]

Are you on a KSE pump? I'm confused as to whether you're looking for a faster steering or an easier steering now.

[LM14]

We want close to 1 turn lock to lock, with a 2:1 speeder. Fast but light effort.

The problem is you can get to the point you overwhelm the pump output with the speed of the box being doubled. Sweet site says to use their lightest valve with their 12:1 box and a 2:1 speeder of the feel will be very heavy.

We have Sweet pumps on both cars.

Thanks,
SPark

[stock car driver]

krc pumps with alum canister attatched are what I use and that box and 2-1 on metric spindles.

It feels fine for me. I believe you can change the valve in the aluminum ps pumps to change the feel... Ive never done that and not sure how to describe feel. I feel I have a good feeling for the steering because I noticed the difference on the track between a 2.5 and 3.5 box right away.

[LM14]

Thanks, Jeff. I ordered one last night, got 15% off plus free shipping!

Saw you run at Bloomfield this summer, you had a pretty good night so your steering must have been working fine!

SPark

[stock car driver]

Thanks, Jeff. I ordered one last night, got 15% off plus free shipping!

Saw you run at Bloomfield this summer, you had a pretty good night so your steering must have been working fine!

SPark

Did you order it from Advanced or someplace else? Will you still get the lifetime warranty?

Bloomfied was easily the biggest win Ive had in my opinion. Some very tough cars in the field and all 5-6 that started in front of me were multi time champions.. I thought about selling everything for a few days after that win.

I junked my car out the next race night, took it to the scrap yard, lol.

[LM14]

Used Advance like you recommended. Should have it Monday to try out!

SPark

[stock car driver]

Used Advance like you recommended. Should have it Monday to try out!

SPark

I always put them in the vise and confirm they are 2.5 or so turns lock to lock. It took me a dozen boxes ordered in to get the fastest one originally, so far this number has always been correct from Advanced, but I had Napa cross this number once and the box that came was 3.25 lock to lock.

[Dirtrunner35]

GM/Saginaw quick-ratio steering box donor car cheat sheet

Late Model 12.7:1 quick-ratio gearbox ID markings YA, WS and HX Line Thread Size: M18x1.5 and M16x1.5 Number of Mounting Holes: 3, (missing leg H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: ¾-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 2 ½ - 3 1984-'88 Monte Carlo/Malibu with Z65 suspension 1983-'88 Malibu, El Camino 1982-'92 Camaro except FE1 soft ride suspension 1984-'87 Regal with FE2 or FE3 sport suspension 1983-'84 Hurst/Olds 1985-'87 Cutlass with 5.0 (VIN code 9) 1982-'85 Trans Am 1986-'92 Firebird except FE1 suspension 1986-'87 Grand Prix with FE2 touring or F41 heavy duty suspension

Pre-'76 12.7:1 quick-ratio gearbox Line Thread Size: 11/16 x 18 and 5/8 x 18 Number of Mounting Holes: 4, (H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: 13/16-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 2 ½ - 3 1967-'76 Camaro, Firebird 1970-'76 Monte Carlo/Malibu 1964-'76 Chevelle

1977-'79 12.7:1 quick-ratio gearbox Line Thread Size: 11/16 x 18 and 5/8 x 18 Number of Mounting Holes: 3, (missing leg H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: ¾-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 2 ½- 3 1977-'79 Camaro, Firebird 1977-'79 Monte Carlo, Malibu 1977-'79 Chevelle

Jeep/S-10 14.0:1 quick ratio gearbox Line Thread Size: M18x1.5 and M16x1.5 Number of Mounting Holes: 3, (missing leg H-pattern) Input Shaft Diameter: ¾-inch Output Shaft Diameter: 1 ¼-inch Number of Turns Lock to Lock: 3 - 3 ½ 1991-'92 Fleetwood 1992-'95 Grand Cherokee 1984-'93 Comanche 1984-'95 Cherokee/Wagoneer 1983-'86 Bonneville 1982-'93 2WD S-10 Blazer and pickup

[Dirtrunner35]

sg a16561

advanced auto parts

What vehicle does that fit ? The # 1282 is 2.5 turns lock to lock

[Dirtrunner35]

I don't buy junk yard parts either, 1282 is advance part number for a gear box with 2. 5 half turn lock to lock