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  • dirtracer07x
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 101

    #16
    Car was better with changes but still tight on entry. Also can somebody explain the panhard bar to me? Right now I am level with pinion and 8in up on frame.

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    • oldtrackchamp4x
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 270

      #17
      Typically speaking, dropping bar on pinion side or raising on frame side tightens entry to the center. Doing the opposite will loosen entry to center. Measure your split from ground to center of bolt on both ends and see what your split is between the two. Anywhere between 4-6 inches is pretty standard. I kinda think you have too much split for your car. JMO

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      • dirtracer07x
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2014
        • 101

        #18
        Well I redid the RR bracket and go 18° of bar angle and the car is finally good on the gas. Little loose getting in Noe but boy does it turn good lol

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        • dirtracer07x
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2014
          • 101

          #19
          Sorry lr bracket. Car is free now and great mid to exit but loose in

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          • Dirtmod13
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 245

            #20
            Lighter RF spring will take some of the wedge off the LR when entering corner off the gas and should tighten entry. Saw a guy doing this Friday. Came into corner sliding all the way up the track then when/ if it caught he could get on the gas but he lost a lot of ground doing that

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            • dirtracer07x
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 101

              #21
              Already down to a 525 on rf. I'm thinking I need to run the rear end straight up. Not trail the RR.

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              • dirtracer07x
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 101

                #22
                Here's the plan for this week. Put a 550 in the rf, a 200 in the RR, run the rear end straight up, put a hold up shock on lr and lower jbar on frame 2in.

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                • oldtrackchamp4x
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 270

                  #23
                  You are planning on doing WAY to many changes on the car. You should only make one change at a time so you know if it works or not. If it doesn't work put it back where it was and try something else, if it works leave it where it's at and go from there. In reading your post that the car is good mid to exit, i would just try dropping jbar 1/2 inch on pinion or raising an inch on frame. JMO.

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                  • dirtracer07x
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 101

                    #24
                    Should jbar be level or lower then pinion on 9in?

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                    • oldtrackchamp4x
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 270

                      #25
                      As I said before, measure from center of bolt that attaches jbar to frame bracket and rearend side pinion plate bolt center wto the floor with all ride heights and tire pressures set. If rear end measures 6 in to floor and frame side measures 12 in to floor you have 6 inches of jbar split. Also as I said before, if car is good except for entry to middle, drop jbar 1/2 inch on pinion or raise frame side 1 inch. If the track is the same as the last time you raced it, you should feel the difference. JMO.

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                      • dirtracer07x
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 101

                        #26
                        OK I backed off on all the changes I was going to make. Checked measurements and had 8 1/2 ins of rake. Lowered it to 6in and set rear end square. That's it for this week. Thanks for the help.

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                        • oldtrackchamp4x
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 270

                          #27
                          Run the car as you now have it in hot laps, if you get hot laps, and see how it enters corner. If jbar is at center of pinion now and car is loose on entry lower it a 1/2 inch on pinion. If it is already 1/2 in below pinion go to an inch below pinion if car is really loose on entry, or raise a 1/2 in on frame if just slightly loose on entry. If you don't get hot laps and car is loose on entry in heat race the way you have it now and track will be the same in the feature or drier, raise 1/2 to 1 inch on frame or lower the 1/2 inch on pinion. JMO. Good Luck.

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                          • dirtracer07x
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2014
                            • 101

                            #28
                            It was really good in hot laps on tacky track. In the heat it slicked off some so I lowered RR bar to level. Main was super dry and car wanted to spin as soon as I got back on gas at mid corner. Think I will lower jbar at pinion for next week.

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                            • dirtracer07x
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 101

                              #29
                              Question. Is there an advantage to moving the RR spring on top of the rear end and if so what is it? Right now I have a 16" on slider behind but I see a lot of guys going to the 13" ontop

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                              • oldtrackchamp4x
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 270

                                #30
                                Remember, jbar is for entry to center. Did you raise lr bar? Did you increase your lr bite? If not you should probably try one or the other. You can drop your tire air pressures to 12 on the right side and 10 lf and 8 lr. On dry slick you really need to be VERY gentle on the throttle, or you could try a vacuum secondary carb. Keep good written records on how the changes effected the car and how dry or tacky the track was so you will know what changes to make to your car when it is dry or tacky. Again, one change at a time. And finally be honest with yourself and think about how well YOU did driving the car. JMO.

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