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  • tucker71
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 198

    #1

    motor help

    anyone have any suggestions what would cause both radiator hoses to swell up big after you run. looked like they were about to blow. car got about 220 and never puked any water out.
  • runyou-2
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1725

    #2
    Yea,head gasket or cracked head causing pressure on the cooling system.Running hot,junk hoses,high pressure cap.Take the cap off,fire it up cold and see if it pushes water out or any air bubbles in the water.If not,keep it running to let it warm up some to see if it pushes water.

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    • diggindirt
      Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 35

      #3
      Only thing I can think of is a head gasket.

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      • roybeckett13j
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 181

        #4
        If its not getting hot, really hot, and its not putting water out i wouldnt think it was a head gasket.

        my thoughts are that its just warm after it runs, heat builds pressure in the cooling system which swells the hoses some...to an extent.
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        • stock car driver
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 3233

          #5
          Ive had piston to head to close and the piston would tap the head just enough to lift it and allow compression in the water system. I could race a night or tow with no issues then walla issues again... my water temp would spike when this happened though but thought I would throw it out there because you cant always see bubbles and you may still have a issue.

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          • runyou-2
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 1725

            #6
            DDDDDaaayyyyyuuuummmmm jeff...you've done it all. what you call that? head lift?hahahhaha

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            • tucker71
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 198

              #7
              thanks. the hoses are old i should have replaced them last week when putting the new engine in. motor ran fine we won the heat and feature. took hood off after heat race and the top hose looked swelled up. ran 15 lap feature and temp was about 220 to 230 by the time we got to where we take pics. didnt push water out. checked water in it next morning and could touch it with my finger still. someone said something about bubbles what does that mean? also was checking it over and it has no thermostat but it had a little metal plate in the intake where your hose goes like a divider where your thermostat goes

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              • stock car driver
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 3233

                #8
                Originally posted by runyou-2 View Post
                DDDDDaaayyyyyuuuummmmm jeff...you've done it all. what you call that? head lift?hahahhaha


                yes in 20 years of racing I have had almost every problem twice... including the head lift issue....

                worse to diagnose was hose in fuel cell loose at the fitting.... weeks and weeks

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                • dirtrace09
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 746

                  #9
                  Head cracked is probably the culprit. Top swollen hose is a telltale sign of a cracked head.

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                  • joedoozer
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 745

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dirtrace09 View Post
                    Head cracked is probably the culprit. Top swollen hose is a telltale sign of a cracked head.
                    Also the sign of an old spongy hose.
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                    • tucker71
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 198

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Living_Truth
                      This is your only issue. We've had brand new hoses that swelled up. Some types of stock hoses aren't made to run 22-26 psi, which is what most racing radiator caps maintain, especially if you have a couple seasons on them.

                      Buy some new, better quality hoses and you'll be fine. Like you said, everything else indicates no problems. You really answered your own question.

                      Good luck.

                      thanks to all. i think i was just worrying for no reason. getting new hoses today. my engine builder said the same thing as you and another guy.

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                      • dave41
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 208

                        #12
                        that one is B.S.

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                        • tucker71
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 198

                          #13
                          which one is b.s

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                          • stock car driver
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3233

                            #14
                            Hoses should have springs in them for high flow water pumps. fyi

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                            • 26-62 racing
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 147

                              #15
                              Rent a radiator pressure from a local parts house. Remove the radiator cap install the tester and pump the cooling system up to 22 to 26 psig. If the hoses expand they have defective rubber in them. While the cooling system is under pressure, look for any loss in pressure by the gauge. Which could could be a sign of additional problems. Diagnose the problems dont just tear into the motor and waste money. There could be a problem not found on a cold motor, but eliminate the easy problems first.

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