Too Big Of Intake Runners?

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  • Verdoorn Racing
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 113

    #1

    Too Big Of Intake Runners?

    Would a set of 200 cc Dart Platinum heads ported to flow 290ish intake and 200ish at .600 lift on the exhaust be too big for a gauge legal 500 Holley on a flat tappet 406 turning 7200 RPM? Intake would be an Edlebrock 2701 or World Products Motown 061040.

    Thanks for the advice.
  • usafracer
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 554

    #2
    How did you get them to flow those numbers? Is there any runner left?
    My sarcasm is a pre-emptive strike to your stupidity!!

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    • usafracer
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 554

      #3
      And either way I would have to say yes.
      My sarcasm is a pre-emptive strike to your stupidity!!

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      • hogracer3d
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 511

        #4
        We tried it just for fun, on a very similar 406 with a head that flowed 345 on the intake side, and had a 235cc runner.

        It made 536 hp on the gauge VDL.4412 amazingly enough, just went slightly rich on top, but we did run it that way at a 30 lapper when it went way dry, and it ran fine

        Put on the VDL 850 with no other changes and it did 691 hp
        Last edited by hogracer3d; 06-14-2011, 09:57 AM.

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        • Verdoorn Racing
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 113

          #5
          Originally posted by hogracer3d View Post
          We tried it just for fun, on a very similar 406 with a head that flowed 345 on the intake side, and had a 235cc runner.

          It made 536 hp on the gauge VDL.4412 amazingly enough, just went slightly rich on top, but we did run it that way at a 30 lapper when it went way dry, and it ran fine
          How was the trottle resonse with the 4412?

          I assume those numbers are from a flow bench.

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          • hogracer3d
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2007
            • 511

            #6
            Originally posted by Verdoorn Racing View Post
            How was the trottle resonse with the 4412?

            I assume those numbers are from a flow bench.
            Those were the advertised flow numbers, but were verified accurate on the flow bench,

            The throttle response was fine, nobody could believe we were on the 2bbl, till we showed them on the tech pad, we finished 2nd in an open comp show with it, but like I said it was crazy dry and dusty

            I still have the Dyno chart if you are interested

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            • DaveBauerSS6
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 566

              #7
              Originally posted by hogracer3d View Post
              We tried it just for fun, on a very similar 406 with a head that flowed 345 on the intake side, and had a 235cc runner.

              It made 536 hp on the gauge VDL.4412 amazingly enough, just went slightly rich on top, but we did run it that way at a 30 lapper when it went way dry, and it ran fine

              Put on the VDL 850 with no other changes and it did 691 hp
              Dave....
              you made 161 HP by adding a 4 bbl???
              you made 691 hp on a 23 degree head (Im assuming solid cam, gasoline)???
              Come on!!!
              Gator Engineering

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              • hogracer3d
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 511

                #8
                GM aluminum 18 degree head, roller cam

                I don't know of a 23* head that flows 345cfm
                Last edited by hogracer3d; 06-15-2011, 11:02 AM.

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                • DaveBauerSS6
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 566

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hogracer3d View Post
                  GM aluminum 18 degree head, roller cam

                  I don't know of a 23* head that flows 345cfm
                  My mind was stuck in the Super Street motors we ran.
                  I had some 235 old Darts that were flowed at AFR at 314 cfm.
                  Gator Engineering

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                  • let-r-eat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2319

                    #10
                    All kinds of 23* degree flowing 325 and up now.......Ain't like the good ole days....
                    BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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                    • turner
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 193

                      #11
                      Check out the All Pro 23 degree heads. I think they are over 360/370 at 23 degrees.

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                      • let-r-eat
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 2319

                        #12
                        All Pro's RR245's move air for sure!
                        BUCKLE UP NOW, YA HEAR?

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