What is your opinion on this 1000 HP late model motor???????

[JETAM]

i think clanton ran one at wvms a few times this past season, ran up front every night, i believe best finish with it was 2nd place, 540" and if i remember right they said it was 40# heavier than a 430, and yeah, thats all big block

Clanton, may have run it once. Steve Francis ran a 504 there twice. The last race there that Pierson won, Clanton ran second with a SB2 Malcuit I belive. The track record was broke that night also by Shaver with a Dart headed small block Chevrolet which I'm sure was pretty big. This is one of the biggest tracks anywhere with long straights. The big blocks there ran decent, but didn't win any of the races.

[bushracing67]

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[ptodd]

shaver runs engines that are built by rumley(the car owner) but it all comes from clements

[CR9crewguy]

I was at Port Royal last night and watched this engine run. It was a test and tune ran after a full sprint show. On a less than ideal track surface Gary Beward ran track record lap times and was an average of 2 seconds a lap faster than the other cars. I talked to him after and he said it hooked up nice, drove well, smooth and pulled hard. I'm pretty anxious to see him race this weekend at Williams Grove possibly!

[dynoman14]

When you want to know go right to the source. I thought it might be an LSX similar to the project I was working on. NOT !!!

I called and left a message and got a call back in less than an hour. Chris was a super guy to talk to, it is a All Aluminum BBC -565" currently weighs in at 450# and over 1000HP / 825# TQ he is "right now" building a LW version with Titanium everything for $10K more ( $45,000 ) and it should weigh in close to SBC weight of 400#. This one is on alcohol, because cooling was a concern, and has a huge 1-BBL carb Pro-Systems Carb on it ( used to call them toilet bowls back in the day ), next one will be on gas. He thinks he can get a full season as it only needs to turn 8500 but will wait and see how the first one runs.

His experience and info is not just out of thin air as he has been building tractor and truck pull engine for 20 years and he knows what he is talking about. As far as comparing the money to what other engine builders charge I guess time and results will be the judge.

If I had a SLM I would be on this ASAP. Way cheaper than a BIG SBC and way more reliable cause the block and heads are built for 1000HP from the start. JMO.

Just thought I would get to the bottom of this cause that is how I roll.

[stockcar5]

your late to the party. i called him 2 months ago to get the info that i posted on 1-27. cause thats how i roll...LOL

[dynoman14]

SC5 - "bill is close. its a 560ci big block"
Wow that is a detailed post, I did not see any reference to the engine builder or any other important information. Hey like you said, that is how you roll...UDAMAN !!! Your props...

I posted relevant information that racers were asking about and wanted to know, but maybe did not know the best way to get.

I was thinking this forum was to ask questions, find answers and distribute information for racers to use and learn with.

Anyway my original interest was related to the possibility of it being and LSX, as the one that I spoke about at length last year ended up winning pinks in GA by about 30mph on the top end, and that did not even have the multiple stages of blow running at that time.

[tsand]

1. titanium parts are illegal in all the top series 2. i watch ronnie johnson kickass with a 525 crate motor at bulls gap. 3.why pay that kind of money when a bigger spoiler and a weight break will run circle around you.

[tsand]

there is maybe 5 race tracks in the country where you can use that much power. small bullrings out number big tracks 10 to 1 and it doesnt matter because in the summer months even the big tracks are going to be dry slick. went to the dream last year and the drivers couldn't touch the gas with out spinning the tires.drivers were qualifing with a big motor then switching to a small motor for the race.as far as titantium it doesn't matter if it frame, motor or rims its illeagel.the cause far out weigh the benifits.

[50j]

SC5 - "bill is close. its a 560ci big block"
Wow that is a detailed post, I did not see any reference to the engine builder or any other important information. Hey like you said, that is how you roll...UDAMAN !!! Your props...

I posted relevant information that racers were asking about and wanted to know, but maybe did not know the best way to get.

I was thinking this forum was to ask questions, find answers and distribute information for racers to use and learn with.

Anyway my original interest was related to the possibility of it being and LSX, as the one that I spoke about at length last year ended up winning pinks in GA by about 30mph on the top end, and that did not even have the multiple stages of blow running at that time.

Since they pick a field of cars that run within a few hundredths of each other, how did he win by 30mph without being disqualified?

[stockcar5]

I was thinking this forum was to ask questions, find answers and distribute information for racers to use and learn with.

no, its turned into a big classified add for snake oil salemen with poor reputations.

[stockcar5]

Since they pick a field of cars that run within a few hundredths of each other, how did he win by 30mph without being disqualified?

dynoman probably sold them a high tech traction control satellite device that fools timing and scoring sytems. his guy at the DOD probably helped him develop it in between building websites for liars.

[50j]

It was probably an electronic ray gun that jammed the timing equipment and didn't show the 30 mph advantage he had. That was developed when he was the director of operations and lead engineer for NASA.

[sj valley dave]

There are quite a few cars running with titanium rods...There is nothing in the rule book that prohibits titanium in engines. All we have are ti retainers, valves and keepers because we can't afford a set of the rods...

[dynoman14]

Haters in general have a problem with technology they don't understand and with folks that can work thru rule books with creative thought. Would you say a person was cheating if they fooled and engine dyno into making 100 more HP and won a contest doing so, or would you call it original thought.

That being said why don't all you geniuses out there tell me how to do it, because it can be done. Pretty easily as a matter of fact. You might have to actually work the brain to get there but we'll see what happens.

As far as the satellite info, I don't guess y'all know much about Delphi electronics and Hughes Corporation. Wonder if they make any parts for GM ???

Oh wait my keys are locked in the car, can you open it up for me and while your at it can you re-map my fuel curve as I am going to Denver in my CTS-V this weekend for a ski trip and I don't want to burn a titanium valve...

If you want to learn something join a "pay to join" F1/MotoGP forum, I am sure you computer geniuses can find one of them real easy...oh wait they are by invitation only, sorry.


SJ Dave,
They group the cars by ET and not MPH and even if they did monitor MPH the car did not run out the top end of the track until the last pass. If you have ever drag raced you will know that a good 9.90 car can run 7.50's but is throttle stopped or stuttered back after the 60' mark and will still run 150mph and 9.90. A 1 second 60' time is a huge factor in the acceleration factor of a car as you can launch a pro-stocker and cut it after 100' and it will still run 10sec@100mph.

The group of folks testing, building and running the vette were smart enough to win by what they had to and did not show the top end charge until the finals and even then it went unnoticed by 99.9% of anybody there at the track or who watched it including you.

Truth,
Best to call the engine builder but I can give you a short list that will save 20-30#...Titanium head studs and nuts, titanium rocker bars, titanium rocker shafts, titanium wrist pins, titanium main caps, titanium main studs and nuts and if you spend and extra $2500 you can take 15# off the block, and another $2500 will get you 5-10# off the crank. That takes care of most of the big stuff then on the rest of the small stuff you just grind off what is not needed.

I have a 4.5" BBC crank built by Larry at Kryptonite and it weighs 48# which at the time was about 20# lighter than what other folks were running. This thing ran in an ancient big IHRA engine that won the Fall Nationals at Bristol it was in a 598 with small EPD heads that were out dated. The thing only made about 1050HP but turned 9500rpm when the Sonny Engines were making 1250 but only turned 8500rpm. The other advantage was it had a 60' like an NHRA car with the added torque it had over the big engines and we loaded all them folks on the trailer that one lucky day about 20 years ago. Billy Ewing knocked Doug Kirk out of the Championship and Tricky Rickie won the deal by a couple points. Haven't done a big engine since then until the 500" LS project last year. SORRY got sidetracked again...

Anyway, wanna see LW...Go look at a Charlie Fisher Sprint car engine and then you'll learn about LW, ain't no studs or bolts hanging past a nut and all the nuts are 1/2 height, and the list goes on...and he ain't scared to run magnesium either. Mag pistons are about 30% lighter than alum as well as carbon wrist pins about 1/2 of titanium and not that expensive really.