NASCAR Fuel Mileage races....... is that really racing?

[old fan]

well for me I know what a champ car is not bad racing just wrong time of the year gotta get ready for the granddaddy of them all the world 100 'leaving early tomorrow morning 'm sue ole mud would enjoy that lil trip

[CIRF]

He can bring all the knowledge of open wheel he wants, fine by me, doesn't make me like them any more

In this case ignorance is truly bliss!! LOL!!

The truly great drivers have come from dirt open wheel racing going all the way back to Foyt & Andretti and more recently Schrader, Gordo, Stewart, Hewitt. Larson, Bell and Rico are poised to make their mark on big time motorsports in today's racing world.

Jack Hewitt has said on more than one occasion that it takes a better all around driver to excel in dirt open wheel cars than it does in mud taxi's. He's won races in both and knows what he's talking about. I personally want to see the best drivers on their way to the big time and you won't see them driving mud taxi's in dirt track train races.

Oh, by the way have ya' been to any mud taxi train races lately?

[CIRF]

well for me I know what a champ car is not bad racing just wrong time of the year gotta get ready for the granddaddy of them all the world 100

Granddaddy of them all?! Say what!!

I can name several races that predate the World Hundred. Knoxville Nationals (the REAL Nationals, not the one run in October). Turkey Night Grand Prix-76 years, Ted Horn Memorial 100-64 years, Bettenhausen 100-56 years and the Allen Crowe Memorial 100-55 years. And one that is much more recent that makes the World look rather small in comparison-The Chili Bowl-30 years.

I've been to 23 or 24 World Hundred's and when you peel back the layers of partying and hype, as often as not, it's an average race. That's part of the reason we don't go anymore, the other part is there are thieves among you at the World and they will prey on whoever and whatever they can get away with whether it's locked up and tied down or not.

[mudslinger47]

In this case ignorance is truly bliss!! LOL!!

The truly great drivers have come from dirt open wheel racing going all the way back to Foyt & Andretti and more recently Schrader, Gordo, Stewart, Hewitt. Larson, Bell and Rico are poised to make their mark on big time motorsports in today's racing world.

Jack Hewitt has said on more than one occasion that it takes a better all around driver to excel in dirt open wheel cars than it does in mud taxi's. He's won races in both and knows what he's talking about. I personally want to see the best drivers on their way to the big time and you won't see them driving mud taxi's in dirt track train races.

Oh, by the way have ya' been to any mud taxi train races lately?

Don't know how to put it any more plain... you like them fine, I don't... but that's fine too... I am a DLM fan threw and threw.... and very happy with its... just not a big fan of the push'm and flippms, that's all...

[old fan]

Granddaddy of them all?! Say what!!I can name several races that predate the World Hundred. Knoxville Nationals (the REAL Nationals, not the one run in October). Turkey Night Grand Prix-76 years, Ted Horn Memorial 100-64 years, Bettenhausen 100-56 years and the Allen Crowe Memorial 100-55 years. And one that is much more recent that makes the World look rather small in comparison-The Chili Bowl-30 years.I've been to 23 or 24 World Hundred's and when you peel back the layers of partying and hype, as often as not, it's an average race. That's part of the reason we don't go anymore, the other part is there are thieves among you at the World and they will prey on whoever and whatever they can get away with whether it's locked up and tied down or not.

yeah what was thinking 23 stock cars showing for mile race is so much more important than any mudd taxi race lmfao f you like midgets yeah chili bowl is great but hey try that race in September and see what you get lmfao

[old fan]

big deal drivers make their mark in big time racing whoopee do then tell how these pink kids get a ride in top notch ride and they are not old enough to shave explain that and the Knoxville nationals for lates is in September and who says it has to predate any thing ask any late model team which event they want to win and they will tell you it certainly would be the Allen Crowe and / or any present race on the mile and do you know why lmfao they don't want to fall asleep at the wheel

[old fan]

both of those turds are 3 to 4 seconds slower than a dirt late model on the mile

[old fan]

and mile races draw such great crowds lmao

[mudslinger47]

big deal drivers make their mark in big time racing whoopee do then tell how these pink kids get a ride in top notch ride and they are not old enough to shave explain that and the Knoxville nationals for lates is in September and who says it has to predate any thing ask any late model team which event they want to win and they will tell you it certainly would be the Allen Crowe and / or any present race on the mile and do you know why lmfao they don't want to fall asleep at the wheel

The Knoxville DLM race is a big deal, rapidly becoming one of the Crown Jewells for sure... I have made it back there for three of them of which one rained out completely.. We were giving thought to giving it a try this year with our team, but got to thinking about it a little to late in the year... I went to the second and the third one, they were awesome... My brother who is a pushm and flippim fan has gone to the Knoxville Nats for as long as I can remember, back when Wolfy was still active... I'll see if he'll respond and let me know when his first year was...

He said it was about 1973 when he started going, Said he thinks Weld won the first one he saw...

[old fan]

yes Knoxville is a bi g deal will watch it next weekend on lucas racing tv , could watch it live but GOTTA support the local track first

[CIRF]

Don't know how to put it any more plain... you like them fine, I don't... but that's fine too... I am a DLM fan threw and threw.... and very happy with its... just not a big fan of the push'm and flippms, that's all...

What you've made plain is that you really aren't all that astute and suffer from tunnel vision (again, that is a polite euphemism for stupid). Mud taxi's are a dead end division and are train races for the most part. Very few, if any, drivers are able to advance to bigger and better things. The open wheel drivers are the drivers in demand where the money and fame is. The people who are continuously looking for good young talent seem to understand that dirt open wheel car control will equate well to the NASCAR taxi cab gimmickry you love to much. I want to see the very best dirt track drivers! You obviously don't.

I must debunk more of your ignorance, muddy. Silver Crown cars neither have to be pushed to be started nor do they flip very often. I can't remember the last time a Silver Crown car flipped at a race I attended and I go to three 100 mile races (Indy Mile, Springfield Mile & Du Quoin Mile), one 100 lap race at the Terre Haute 1/2 mile and the 50 lap A-main at Eldora at the 4 Crown Nationals. I'm sure there have been one or two over the past few years but not many.

yeah what was thinking 23 stock cars showing for mile race is so much more important than any mudd taxi race lmfao f you like midgets yeah chili bowl is great but hey try that race in September and see what you get lmfao

LOL!! You sure know a lot about racing you profess to have no use for!!

I feel bad for you knowing that the Chili Bowl in January bothers you so!! LOL!

The Chili Bowl is one of the two biggest and best dirt races on the planet. That really gets to you don't it litey! LOL!!

You were the one who was talking about the "granddaddy of them all", not me. It was incumbent upon me to inform you that there are races that have been run annually since before Eldora was in existence and WAY before the World.

big deal drivers make their mark in big time racing whoopee do then tell how these pink kids get a ride in top notch ride and they are not old enough to shave explain that and the Knoxville nationals for lates is in September and who says it has to predate any thing ask any late model team which event they want to win and they will tell you it certainly would be the Allen Crowe and / or any present race on the mile and do you know why lmfao they don't want to fall asleep at the wheel

Huh?

both of those turds are 3 to 4 seconds slower than a dirt late model on the mile

And mud taxi's are 15 MPH slower than sprint cars on the mile tracks. The fastest lap ever turned on a dirt track was turned by a sprint car at Springfield.

The Knoxville DLM race is a big deal, rapidly becoming one of the Crown Jewells for sure... I have made it back there for three of them of which one rained out completely.. We were giving thought to giving it a try this year with our team, but got to thinking about it a little to late in the year... I went to the second and the third one, they were awesome... My brother who is a pushm and flippim fan has gone to the Knoxville Nats for as long as I can remember, back when Wolfy was still active... I'll see if he'll respond and let me know when his first year was...
He said it was about 1973 when he started going, Said he thinks Weld won the first one he saw...

I've got that beat by 7 years. First time at Springfield was 1966. I was very young but I was there.

The late models at Knoxville aren't even in the same universe as the real Nationals or The Chili Bowl. Part of the reason is mud taxi races are train races! I've been to well over 20 World Hundreds and I attend both mud taxi and dirt open wheel races every season. I have been doing so my entire adult life and can distinguish the difference. You see, I don't suffer from tunnel vision (euphemism for stupidity). Can't make it any more plain than that!

[mudslinger47]

What you've made plain is that you really aren't all that astute and suffer from tunnel vision (again, that is a polite euphemism for stupid). Mud taxi's are a dead end division and are train races for the most part. Very few, if any, drivers are able to advance to bigger and better things. The open wheel drivers are the drivers in demand where the money and fame is. The people who are continuously looking for good young talent seem to understand that dirt open wheel car control will equate well to the NASCAR taxi cab gimmickry you love to much. I want to see the very best dirt track drivers! You obviously don't.

I must debunk more of your ignorance, muddy. Silver Crown cars neither have to be pushed to be started nor do they flip very often. I can't remember the last time a Silver Crown car flipped at a race I attended and I go to three 100 mile races (Indy Mile, Springfield Mile & Du Quoin Mile), one 100 lap race at the Terre Haute 1/2 mile and the 50 lap A-main at Eldora at the 4 Crown Nationals. I'm sure there have been one or two over the past few years but not many.

LOL!! You sure know a lot about racing you profess to have no use for!!

I feel bad for you knowing that the Chili Bowl in January bothers you so!! LOL!

The Chili Bowl is one of the two biggest and best dirt races on the planet. That really gets to you don't it litey! LOL!!

You were the one who was talking about the "granddaddy of them all", not me. It was incumbent upon me to inform you that there are races that have been run annually since before Eldora was in existence and WAY before the World.

Huh?

And mud taxi's are 15 MPH slower than sprint cars on the mile tracks. The fastest lap ever turned on a dirt track was turned by a sprint car at Springfield.

I've got that beat by 7 years. First time at Springfield was 1966. I was very young but I was there.

The late models at Knoxville aren't even in the same universe as the real Nationals or The Chili Bowl. Part of the reason is mud taxi races are train races! I've been to well over 20 World Hundreds and I attend both mud taxi and dirt open wheel races every season. I have been doing so my entire adult life and can distinguish the difference. You see, I don't suffer from tunnel vision (euphemism for stupidity). Can't make it any more plain than that!

I can't make it any more clear... you like pushm and flippm's I don't ..... I prefer DLM's even at Knoxville.....

[CIRF]

I can't make it any more clear... you like pushm and flippm's I don't ..... I prefer DLM's even at Knoxville.....

I can't make it any clearer, I like dirt racing of all kinds even though in comparison mud taxi's are slow, awkward and cumbersome and are train racing on dirt. However, I don't have tunnel vision (polite euphemism for stupid) like you and I possess the ability to appreciate the competition for what it is.

You persist in putting forth bogus misinformation even after the subject has been very clearly explained multiple times. Silver Crown cars are not pushed to be started and they rarely flip. Continuing with the bogus analogy isn't tunnel vision, it's purely and simply stupid.

Is your lack of comprehension an acquired skill and something you aspire to perfect or were you born that way and have honed those skills ever since? LOL@U!!

[mudslinger47]

I can't make it any clearer, I like dirt racing of all kinds even though in comparison mud taxi's are slow, awkward and cumbersome and are train racing on dirt. However, I don't have tunnel vision (polite euphemism for stupid) like you and I possess the ability to appreciate the competition for what it is.

You persist in putting forth bogus misinformation even after the subject has been very clearly explained multiple times. Silver Crown cars are not pushed to be started and they rarely flip. Continuing with the bogus analogy isn't tunnel vision, it's purely and simply stupid.

Is your lack of comprehension an acquired skill and something you aspire to perfect or were you born that way and have honed those skills ever since? LOL@U!!

They are still considered pushm & Flippim's just like DLM's are taxi cabs.... hate to break the facts to ya.... DLM's rule.... in my book, maybe not yours and that's just fine... I'm good with that...

[CIRF]

They are still considered pushm & Flippim's just like DLM's are taxi cabs

Once again, USAC Silver Crown cars aren't pushed to be started and they don't flip very often. They are only considered as such by a very small number of extremely small minded people grossly ignorant of the facts. In other words, you're an ignoramus. As is often the case, you're way out in left field (another polite euphemism for stupid). And, DLM's aren't even taxi cabs, they're mud taxi's.

.... hate to break the facts to ya.... DLM's rule.... in my book, maybe not yours and that's just fine... I'm good with that...

The only "facts" you're breaking to me or anyone else is that you really and truly don't know what you're talking about...................again.

DLM's may rule in your book but the facts are clear, compared to this year's Texas Indy Car race, the last 4 Indy 500's and this year's USAC Silver Crown Ted Horn 100 at Du Quoin DLM's are slow, awkward, cumbersome train races. That's just fine, I'm good with that.