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  • Bubstr
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 3734

    #46
    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
    ISIS and the Muslim militant groups Muslim Brotherhood, al qaeda, Taliban, etc are not Government, they are THE reasons for the killing in the middle east. Or are you going to pin it on us? Or some other government? Sorry but no.

    Your reasoning is a bit distorted by your experiences, maybe? Yes?

    You leave them alone and the murdering will eventually be on our on land, and that is a fact.

    Ignoring murderous dictators in Africa, how is that helping. Ignoring Iran will eventually get us put it the dark, that's a reality. These people have to be dealt with and I'm sorry but the war for OIL excuse is a total cop out.
    Explain how Syrian government would benefit from gassing their own?
    If fighting there instead of here was true, where are the Communists after Korea and Viet Nam?
    I believe your reasoning is distorted by not having my experiences.
    I didn't think you understood about the Oil. It's not the oil, it's what currency the oil can be paid for. We used to have a gold standard to back our dollar. We no longer have that. The thing that makes the dollar worth more than paper is, you need it to buy oil. So back in the old days there was a golld dollar, there is now a oil dollar. Did you ever wonder why we invaded Iraq instead of Saudi? Most of the 9 11 terrorist came from Saudi. It's because we have a agreement with Saudi that they can only sell oil for US dollars, Iraq didn't. ^ou can believe that or not. You will have company. A lot of people got fooled.

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    • Clayton_Wetter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 16671

      #47
      I can't explain Assad doing that. This happened once before and he blamed the rebels and this could well be the case again. I do have the opinion that the rebels which are not all good people could do the gassing and then blame Assad hoping to get us to respond like Trump did. So I'm leaning on blaming the rebels, but not ruling out that Assad actually did it also.

      I try to be positive but like you can see the possibilities. I guess I'm just not quite as skeptical. Or maybe not quite off the deep end. Just kidding.
      Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 04-13-2017, 08:00 PM.

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      • a25rjr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 3774

        #48
        Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
        I can't explain Assad doing that. This happened once before and he blamed the rebels and this could well be the case again. I do have the opinion that the rebels which are not all good people could do the gassing and then blame Assad hoping to get us to respond like Trump did. So I'm leaning on blaming the rebels, but not ruling out that Assad actually did it also.

        I try to be positive but like you can see the possibilities. I guess I'm just not quite as skeptical. Or maybe not quite off the deep end. Just kidding.
        That would be like saying, would Saddam do that to his people? We know the answer to that one!
        Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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        • balljoint
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 1774

          #49
          Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
          My argument fails...haha! Its called supply and demand. Its also called PATRIOTISM! With all the wars and rumors of wars, the military isn't lacking any volunteers!

          I would strongly urge any kids, even my own, to join the military!!
          What would Jesus Do?

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          • a25rjr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 3774

            #50
            Originally posted by balljoint View Post
            What would Jesus Do?
            Jesus told David to kill Goliath....and he did!

            You might wanna read the Bible, many immoral nationalities of people were anihalated and destroyed (even women and children) by the Israelites because Jesus instructed them to! He's your best friend or your WORST judge! You don't want Him to be your judge!
            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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            • balljoint
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 1774

              #51
              Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
              I can't explain Assad doing that. This happened once before and he blamed the rebels and this could well be the case again. I do have the opinion that the rebels which are not all good people could do the gassing and then blame Assad hoping to get us to respond like Trump did. So I'm leaning on blaming the rebels, but not ruling out that Assad actually did it also.

              I try to be positive but like you can see the possibilities. I guess I'm just not quite as skeptical. Or maybe not quite off the deep end. Just kidding.
              "News broke early Tuesday morning of yet another tragedy in the nearly six-year-long “civil war” in Syria, this time in the northwestern province of Idlib, where a chemical gas attack is estimated to have killed 58 people, including 11 children, according to multiple media reports. Two groups – the White Helmets and the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights – have blamed the Syrian government for the attack."

              A deadly chemical attack was carried out in northwestern Syria’s Idlib Province early Tuesday, killing at least 58 people. The United States and its allies have been quick to blame Syria’s government for orchestrating the attack, despite a significant lack of proof., al-Nusra, chemical attack, chemical weapons, Ghouta, Idlib, rebels, Syria, Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, White Helmets,


              "USAID now appears to be the largest donor, having contributed at least $23 million from 2013 to March 2016.[48][49] The British government had provided £15 million of funding between 2012 and November 2015,[50] increased to £32 million by October 2016."






              http://21stcenturywire.com/2016/09/2...ked-imposters/

              So a group primarily funded by CIA/MI6 is claiming the Sarin attack was from Assad.

              Those are both facts. Darn those biased facts! haha

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              • Bubstr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3734

                #52
                Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                I can't explain Assad doing that. This happened once before and he blamed the rebels and this could well be the case again. I do have the opinion that the rebels which are not all good people could do the gassing and then blame Assad hoping to get us to respond like Trump did. So I'm leaning on blaming the rebels, but not ruling out that Assad actually did it also.

                I try to be positive but like you can see the possibilities. I guess I'm just not quite as skeptical. Or maybe not quite off the deep end. Just kidding.
                You must be talking about the 2013 event. That one was investigated and they found no remnants of sarrin gas, but if you say it enough, it becomes true. Gas don't blow away with the wind and leave no traces. I remember a gas chamber in boot camp. The DI said they haven't added new gas for 5 years and it was intense. That was tear gas.

                Something bothers me about these gruesome pictures of the kids also. The people doing the rescue are not wearing full hazmat suits with full face masks. That gas hangs around and even if you injected the Atropin, it does not keep you from getting sick, it just gives you a chance to live. It's just when things don't add up, they don't add up and yes I am skeptical. Just because the news says it's confirmed, Assaid did it, don't mean he did or even if it was done, especially when the same news says they are investigating the next day. Investigating and confirmed don't fit together.

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                • balljoint
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1774

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
                  The people doing the rescue are not wearing full hazmat suits with full face masks. That gas hangs around and even if you injected the Atropin, it does not keep you from getting sick, it just gives you a chance to live. It's just when things don't add up, they don't add up and yes I am skeptical. .

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                  • Bubstr
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3734

                    #54
                    That's what I'm talking about, Balljoint.

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                    • balljoint
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1774

                      #55
                      Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                      Jesus told David to kill Goliath....and he did!

                      You might wanna read the Bible, many immoral nationalities of people were anihalated and destroyed (even women and children) by the Israelites because Jesus instructed them to! He's your best friend or your WORST judge! You don't want Him to be your judge!
                      Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

                      Love your enemies. Mercy AND forgiveness.

                      Spring is coming along nicely.

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                      • dirtdobber45
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2015
                        • 7226

                        #56
                        We need to take care of whats going on in THIS country. Minnesota Montana Idaho and N.Dakota are all ok with SHAIRA LAW... WTF? Have these people ever read the Quran? Or better yet seen whats going on in other countries that have let them in? Yes I know 'freedom of religion' but Im pretty sure when our Constitution was written no one knew about Muslims and their beliefs. If we dont do something now its going to get out of hand and what America has fought for for all these years will be flushed down the toilet. Funny that the mayor of Seattle is ok with Shaira Law except since he has been accused of raping a 15 yr old boy at one time he would be stoned or beheaded for doing that if under their laws. We need to wake the h€ll up!!!
                        If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                        • dirtdobber45
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 7226

                          #57
                          And one more thing... these sanctuary cities.. the mayors should be held accountable for what goes on in those cities. If an illegal immigrant breaks the law the mayor should be charged for aiding and abetting. Sick of these dumb@$$ liberals that have no freaking clue
                          If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                          • a25rjr
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 3774

                            #58
                            [QUOTE=balljoint;2096465]Judge not, and you shall not be judged.

                            Please explain what this means. You and the rest of the world ALWAYS take this out of context......so enlighten us all! This is not a verse that can be taken literally out of its context!
                            Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                            • balljoint
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1774

                              #59
                              [QUOTE=a25rjr;2097549]
                              Originally posted by balljoint View Post
                              Judge not, and you shall not be judged.

                              Please explain what this means. You and the rest of the world ALWAYS take this out of context......so enlighten us all! This is not a verse that can be taken literally out of its context!
                              Thought it was pretty straight forward. What does it mean to you good brother?

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                              • D. Tidrow
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 720

                                #60
                                [QUOTE=balljoint;2097714]
                                Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                                Thought it was pretty straight forward. What does it mean to you good brother?
                                Our fake country is looking to invade Syria. Our own intelligence community wants to take out Assad. Just like Iraq and Afghanistan and Egypt. How did that work out? How is a country the side of Rhode Island so powerful?

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