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  • Clayton_Wetter
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 16671

    #16
    Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
    Many of them are more productive than the average American. Kicking them out will put a serious drain on our economy.
    You got it all backwards, sir.

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    • mcarter815
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2016
      • 1690

      #17
      DACA recipients are educated with a high schol diploma or G.E.D. being a requirement and an estimated 20% of the recipients either have or are working on a college degree. The Libertarian think tank Cato Institute estimates ending DACA would cost the U.S. $215 billion in lost economic output over 10 years, plus another $60 billion in lost taxes. Deporting them would cost another $7.5 billion, and when that's added up the cost of ending the DACA program comes to a total of minus $283 billion.

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      • dirtdobber45
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 7226

        #18
        Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
        DACA recipients are educated with a high schol diploma or G.E.D. being a requirement and an estimated 20% of the recipients either have or are working on a college degree. The Libertarian think tank Cato Institute estimates ending DACA would cost the U.S. $215 billion in lost economic output over 10 years, plus another $60 billion in lost taxes. Deporting them would cost another $7.5 billion, and when that's added up the cost of ending the DACA program comes to a total of minus $283 billion.
        Did any stop for a min and go through the process of becoming a legal person in this country? Have any of them? If they did there wouldnt be spanish translation on EVERY product out in this country. Ill be happy when their gone more jobs for me and my friends that cant get anywhere because of CHEAP labor i.e. illegals. This clip is suppose to be about BLM but it explains alot about what Im talking about... https://youtu.be/Vw1yRpiFJCo
        If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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        • mcarter815
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 1690

          #19
          Originally posted by dirtdobber45 View Post
          Did any stop for a min and go through the process of becoming a legal person in this country? Have any of them? If they did there wouldnt be spanish translation on EVERY product out in this country. Ill be happy when their gone more jobs for me and my friends that cant get anywhere because of CHEAP labor i.e. illegals. This clip is suppose to be about BLM but it explains alot about what Im talking about... https://youtu.be/Vw1yRpiFJCo
          The average DACA recipient makes $17/hr. Your friends can't find jobs because they don't have any skills useful to their job market. Learn to write computer software and you can find a middle class job tomorrow. Hell, learn any trade. Unemployment is at the lowest it has been since 2001. The U.S. needs a large influx of immigrant workers or our economy will stall out because of an aging population. DACA recipients were brought to the U.S. under the age of 16. Many of them entered the country legally when their parents had work visas that then expired. Because they are in the country illegally, there is virtually no path to citizenship for them under the current immigration system. These kids grew up in the U.S. and it is more home to them than their birth country.

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          • hipower17
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 643

            #20
            they are still illegal.

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            • Clayton_Wetter
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 16671

              #21
              Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
              The average DACA recipient makes $17/hr. Your friends can't find jobs because they don't have any skills useful to their job market. Learn to write computer software and you can find a middle class job tomorrow. Hell, learn any trade. Unemployment is at the lowest it has been since 2001. The U.S. needs a large influx of immigrant workers or our economy will stall out because of an aging population. DACA recipients were brought to the U.S. under the age of 16. Many of them entered the country legally when their parents had work visas that then expired. Because they are in the country illegally, there is virtually no path to citizenship for them under the current immigration system. These kids grew up in the U.S. and it is more home to them than their birth country.
              So you think it's okay for illegals to flood our nation and destroy it's culture??? Obummer broke the law for just that purpose. And even more for the reason of creating more Democrat voters.

              When did he ever think about our own people first???

              Any DACA participant who committed a crime was dropped off the program and not counted for the crime, creating a false record BTW.
              Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 09-13-2017, 04:52 PM.

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              • Clayton_Wetter
                Banned
                • May 2007
                • 16671

                #22
                Our Federal Government Does Not Enforce the Law. Current U.S. law, written and passed by Congress and signed by the president, makes it illegal for foreign nationals to enter or stay in the country without authorization. Despite this clear provision of law, an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants reside in the United States.
                America Lacks Strong Border Security. U.S. borders are not secure. Criminals, drug cartels, terrorists, and those that wish to do our nation harm know this and seek to exploit it every day. A basic role of the federal government established the U.S. Constitution is to uphold our national sovereignty.
                America’s Immigration System has the Wrong Incentives. The current family-based (or chain-migration) system prioritizes “immediate relatives” before meeting more pressing needs for our country such as high-skilled migrants. These policies appeal to political, emotional or special interest agendas dictated by politicians.
                Real Immigration Solutions are Held Hostage. Liberals, Washington elites and big business are convinced that a sweeping amnesty is the political silver bullet of immigration reform. They continue to send a clear signal to would-be migrants: That the United States ignores the rule of law and will not hold lawbreakers accountable for their actions. This trend must be reversed for commonsense solutions to become reality.
                Conservative Solutions:

                Enforce U.S. Immigration Law. Deporting illegal immigrants, denying amnesty, and simply enforcing current law sends a very strong signal to potential offenders: Do not enter or stay in the U.S. illegally. The Trump administration has begun enforcing U.S. immigration laws and should continue to restore lawfulness. Congress should act if the Trump administration’s efforts to deny funds to so-called “sanctuary cities” that refuse to enforce federal immigration laws are blocked by the courts.
                Secure our Borders. Congress should approve funding to build more secure fencing along the southern border and implement a comprehensive surveillance system to monitor border activity. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Border Patrol, and the Coast Guard should receive targeted resources needed to enforce the law on the border.
                Oppose Amnesty. Prioritizing those here illegally is a grave injustice to those waiting in line to come to America the right way. Amnesty creates a vicious cycle. It increases expectations for future amnesties while encouraging more migrants to break the law in the meantime.
                Oppose Bipartisan “compromise” on DACA. President Trump was right to rescind DACA, but his suggestion to swap codification of the program for additional border security measures is misguided. Republicans should not repeat the 1986 mistake of agreeing to permanent amnesty in exchange for future promises of border security. It was a bad deal then and a bad deal today.
                Reform Legal Immigration. Moving away from a blanket, chain-migration system and replacing it with a rational, skills based-migration system should be prioritized after our border is secure. Improving internal enforcement through E-Verify is a critical part of this transition and would allow for better prosecution of companies who hire illegal immigrants.

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                • dirtdobber45
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 7226

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mcarter815 View Post
                  The average DACA recipient makes $17/hr. Your friends can't find jobs because they don't have any skills useful to their job market. Learn to write computer software and you can find a middle class job tomorrow. Hell, learn any trade. Unemployment is at the lowest it has been since 2001. The U.S. needs a large influx of immigrant workers or our economy will stall out because of an aging population. DACA recipients were brought to the U.S. under the age of 16. Many of them entered the country legally when their parents had work visas that then expired. Because they are in the country illegally, there is virtually no path to citizenship for them under the current immigration system. These kids grew up in the U.S. and it is more home to them than their birth country.
                  Idk what world you live in but please stay there. You have no clue what your talking about
                  If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                  • mcarter815
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 1690

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                    So you think it's okay for illegals to flood our nation and destroy it's culture??? Obummer broke the law for just that purpose. And even more for the reason of creating more Democrat voters. When did he ever think about our own people first???Any DACA participant who committed a crime was dropped off the program and not counted for the crime, creating a false record BTW.
                    How are they destroying the culture? Illegals aren't flooding the country and the DACA recipients have grown up here. For most of them America is more of a home than their birth country. Your following post shows that you don't understand that most undocumented immigrants came here legally. Beefing up border security isn't going to stop it.

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                    • STRONGERTHANDIRT
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 753

                      #25
                      Doesn't matter now, Trump made a deal with Schumer and Pelosi last night on DACA.

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                      • formercrewguy
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 987

                        #26
                        Originally posted by STRONGERTHANDIRT View Post
                        Doesn't matter now, Trump made a deal with Schumer and Pelosi last night on DACA.
                        No he didn't. They lied.

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                        • mcarter815
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1690

                          #27
                          It's not a deal, but it is an agreement that Trump wants to make DACA law.

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                          • formercrewguy
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 987

                            #28
                            If Congress doesn't get it done by March 5th, it ends. Period. No new green cards.

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                            • dirtdobber45
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 7226

                              #29
                              So mcarter your ok that 2500-3000 of these DACA kids are in gangs and/or in gang related situations? You want to keep them in this country too where they can suck up MORE tax payer money?
                              If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                              • dirtdobber45
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 7226

                                #30
                                More than half of the American working-class and those living below the poverty line say illegal immigrants take jobs away from U.S. workers, according to | Border / Cartel Chronicles
                                If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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