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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #1

    NASCAR Lookin' To Regain Fan Base

    Ran across this article on Forbes website. Looks like NASCAR is going to make some fairly significant alterations to their business model. Even left the door open to run a Cup race or two on dirt. Really hope that happens and it takes place at one of the remaining 1 mile dirt tracks. My hopes are selfish since three of them that are left are within 3 hours of our house and they all three can produce great racing. ARCA, for many years has been putting on some of the best racing of their season at Springfield & Du Quoin, Illinois.

    The most needed changes, however, were not asked about or mentioned. That being the silly stage racing and chase. Gonna' be hard to get the real race fans back (if that's even possible) without doing away with all of the gimmick's. Gotta' make the championship formula much easier to understand for the casual fan. I hope they come up with a winning combination 'cause something has to give or NASCAR as we know it will be dead when the present TV deal goes away.


    NASCAR has seen declines in attendance and revenues, so the sport has put together a plan to get things turned around. Here are the details.
  • ZERO25
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 5240

    #2
    Column: Daytona 500 was action-packed opener NASCAR needed





    By JENNA FRYER - Feb. 18, 2019 11:47 AM EST




    Erik Jones (20), William Byron (24), Brad Keselowski (2), and Brendan Gaughan (62) crash during a NASCAR Daytona 500 auto race Sunday, Feb. 17, 2019, at Daytona International Speedway in Daytona Beach, Fla. (AP Photo/David Graham)



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    DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Jim France told 'em to race and NASCAR's next generation didn't disappoint.

    The Daytona 500 packed an unforeseen punch that, if nothing else, entertained Sunday's sun-drenched, sold-out crowd at the famed "World Center of Racing." There were a ton of wrecks, especially during the final 20 laps of regulation, which Kyle Busch described as the portion of the race in which "brains come unglued."

    The crashes led to nearly 40 minutes of stoppage for cleanup — breaks so long race-winner Denny Hamlin claimed he twice fell asleep in his Toyota. Hamlin led a clean sweep for Joe Gibbs Racing, which went 1-2-3 in an overtime finish that honored team co-founder J.D. Gibbs following his death last month from a long battle with a degenerative neurological disease.



    It was an emotional weekend at Daytona International Speedway for Joe Gibbs, who leaned on his eldest son to run their NASCAR operation while he coached the Washington Redskins. J.D. Gibbs was a driver, a tire changer, team executive, talent scout and the guy who discovered a struggling Virginia short track racer who is now a two-time Daytona 500 winner.

    Gibbs has three Super Bowl victories and three wins in NASCAR's version of the Super Bowl, and he ranked Hamlin's win "the most emotional and biggest win I've ever had in my life, in anything."

    These are the moments when NASCAR shines bright, with a feel-good victory that honored a man who loved racing. The shared moment for Gibbs, his family and his race team dwarfed the rest of the 500.

    There had been concern the main event might disappoint after three ho-hum exhibition races, but NASCAR got the event it needed to start its rebuilding season. France, the NASCAR chairman since August, used the prerace driver meeting to urge the full 40-car field to get up on the wheel and race. Drivers had spent the week in single-file lines, and only Hamlin and Chase Elliott had frequented the second, bottom lane, leading into the 500.

    "I hope a few of you drivers out there will get down on the bottom with Denny and Chase and put on a good show today," France said.

    Who knows if France's request — it actually sounded as if he was asking for a favor — was the kick in the seat the drivers needed? They raced hard from the very start, tore up a couple million dollars' worth of cars, and put on a rather memorable show. The overnight rating on Fox was up 8 percent from last year's record low — up against the Winter Olympics — and early numbers indicated the Daytona 500 was trending toward the top-rated sports event of weekend.

    Some takeaways:

    — Matt DiBenedetto led a race-high 49 laps in his debut for mid-pack Leavine Family Racing. The team now has crew chief Mike Wheeler, who won Hamlin's first Daytona 500 four years ago, and a Toyota partnership that gave DiBenedetto a chance to win "The Great American Race."

    — Paul Menard was ensnared in both the big wrecks at Speedweeks. Jimmie Johnson crashed him to deny Menard a win a week earlier in an exhibition race, then Menard triggered a 21-car accident on Sunday. It ended DiBenedetto's day and gave the race the indelible demolition derby moment that will surely be used in marketing campaigns to come.

    — Hendrick Motorsports had the front row at the start of the race but it was Johnson, in a battered Chevrolet, who led the camp with a ninth-place finish. Only 14 cars finished on the lead lap, which helped Johnson and others salvage otherwise difficult races. Same for Kyle Larson, who was involved in three different incidents and still finished seventh. "What a gnarly night," said Johnson.

    — Ford was heavily favored to win the race in its debut of the Mustang and Logano was fantastic in trying to chase down Hamlin in overtime. Logano wound up fourth — annoyed fellow Ford driver Michael McDowell did not push him at the end — in the lone bright spot for the manufacturer. It was a rough race for Stewart-Haas Racing, which had three drivers in contention for the victory until the late wrecks, and wound up with four crashed race cars.

    — Small teams had big days , led by McDowell in fifth for Front Row Motorsports. Eight of the 40 drivers were making their Daytona 500 debut and Ryan Preece, a short-track star from New England, impressed with an eighth-place finish for JTG Daugherty Racing. Watermelon farmer Ross Chastain, in one of the slowest cars in the field, finished 10th.

    The race, which clocked in at 3 hours, 45 minutes not including the stoppage time, was not the cleanest or the prettiest but it certainly was not dull.

    "Anybody who thought they were going to line up and ride around the top for the Daytona 500 for 490 miles doesn't know the competitive nature of these guys," said crew chief Chris Gabehart, a winner in his debut with Hamlin. "The Daytona 500 with everybody out there trying to get after it, it's not going to be boring."

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    This is their problem. The media, like this article, thinks wrecking is racing! smh

    Nascar obviously knows they are in trouble, when their President has to ask the drivers to put on a good show for the fans! smh

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    • CIRF
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 8122

      #3
      ZERO, I just don't see a whole lot changing in regards to Cup crowds and TV ratings until they undo some of the gimmicks such as the stage nonsense and the chase. I would even say going back to ending these races under yellow like they did for 50+ years might save millions in racing equipment and help keep some of the less funded teams from losing copious amounts of equipment. Dam sure would have at Daytona!

      The championship formula has to be simplified, as well. I must admit I don't follow the whole deal nearly as much as we once did but I do keep track of Larson, Bell and Briscoe and I can't make head nor tail of what's going on in regards to the points system.

      I haven't been to a NASCAR Cup race for over 10 years but I'd be first in line to buy tickets for a Cup race on the dirt regardless of where it would be run. But it really needs to be on one of the Illinois Mile tracks!! LOL!

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      • Raceready
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2015
        • 4737

        #4
        LOL ! On how it was said a few times that the race was sold out. What they didn't say is that many of the bleachers had been removed in recent years so that it takes less people to fill what is left in the seating department.

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        • ZERO25
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2018
          • 5240

          #5
          Originally posted by CIRF View Post
          ZERO, I just don't see a whole lot changing in regards to Cup crowds and TV ratings until they undo some of the gimmicks such as the stage nonsense and the chase. I would even say going back to ending these races under yellow like they did for 50+ years might save millions in racing equipment and help keep some of the less funded teams from losing copious amounts of equipment. Dam sure would have at Daytona!

          The championship formula has to be simplified, as well. I must admit I don't follow the whole deal nearly as much as we once did but I do keep track of Larson, Bell and Briscoe and I can't make head nor tail of what's going on in regards to the points system.

          I haven't been to a NASCAR Cup race for over 10 years but I'd be first in line to buy tickets for a Cup race on the dirt regardless of where it would be run. But it really needs to be on one of the Illinois Mile tracks!! LOL!
          I agree!

          I was a diehard fan for my whole life (I was in attendance in my mamas womb...lol)! Went about 25 years straight to the 125's! Then , when Brian took over, Nascrap decided to cater to the new fans and kicked us old fans to the curb. Now, theyre trying to get us back....too late!

          Im a purist.....get rid of the gimmicks and get back to points racing.....that's how every Saturday nite track works!

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          • ZERO25
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2018
            • 5240

            #6
            Originally posted by Raceready View Post
            LOL ! On how it was said a few times that the race was sold out. What they didn't say is that many of the bleachers had been removed in recent years so that it takes less people to fill what is left in the seating department.
            A buddy of mine went to the truck race without a ticket.....and ended up buying tickets for all 3 races (at the ticket window, not off the street)!

            Who knows if they actually sold out or if they did, it had to be last minute!

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            • CIRF
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 8122

              #7
              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
              A buddy of mine went to the truck race without a ticket.....and ended up buying tickets for all 3 races (at the ticket window, not off the street)!

              Who knows if they actually sold out or if they did, it had to be last minute!
              ZERO, I don't know what to believe anymore but I went to the DIS website the morning of the 500 and just for curiosity's sake I clicked on the link to ticket purchase's and it said sold out. Like I said, don't know if it's true or not.

              We went to the 500 about 20 or 21 consecutive years and continued to go to the twin qualifiers for another 4 or 5 years after we quit going to the 500. Ticket prices got so high that I couldn't have that much fun.

              I also got extremely sick of constantly standing during the green flag segments. When the yellow would be thrown all the numbskull's would sit down 'till they were coming to the green and then like clockwork they'd all stand up, again. Dammedest thing I ever seen. I've been going to the Indy 500 since I was in college and NEVER has that happened there. It didn't start until the late 1990's and it goes on to this day.
              Last edited by CIRF; 02-19-2019, 07:44 PM.

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              • kidrock
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 16407

                #8
                Hopefully with the death of the restrictor plate at Daytona and Talladega the racing will get better.

                I would like to see one weekend they have the cup drivers yeah that's right I called them cup drivers lol, race a truck on Friday night a Xfiniity car on Saturday night and the cup car on Sunday afternoon at the same track.

                It's been reported they sold out not sure if that is true but, It did look like they had a good crowd

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                • balljoint
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1774

                  #9
                  Heard Loganos dad was quite upset at McDowell.

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                  • kidrock
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 16407

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Raceready View Post
                    LOL ! On how it was said a few times that the race was sold out. What they didn't say is that many of the bleachers had been removed in recent years so that it takes less people to fill what is left in the seating department.
                    That has nothing to do with the races being sold out. Yes they removed bleachers but, they still had what over 80,000 to 100,000 people that is still a lot people to watch an event.

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                    • CIRF
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 8122

                      #11
                      Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                      That has nothing to do with the races being sold out. Yes they removed bleachers but, they still had what over 80,000 to 100,000 people that is still a lot people to watch an event.
                      Joy mentioned there being over 100,000 people in the stands and there might have been. However, the crowds for the qualifiers on Thursday night and the truck and Xfinity races were horrible. I can remember, and I'm sure ZERO can too, when the place was 90% full for the qualifiers, and that includes when they had the backstretch grandstands.

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                      • Clayton_Wetter
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 16671

                        #12
                        Daytona and other tracks have painted all of the seats various colors to make it LOOK like someone is sitting in them even if they are not. Oops, that don't work too well on my Sony 4K TV. lol

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                        • kidrock
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 16407

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                          Joy mentioned there being over 100,000 people in the stands and there might have been. However, the crowds for the qualifiers on Thursday night and the truck and Xfinity races were horrible. I can remember, and I'm sure ZERO can too, when the place was 90% full for the qualifiers, and that includes when they had the backstretch grandstands.
                          I'm not disputing Nascar is not what it used to be but, still to have 100,000 people attend any event is nothing to sneeze about.

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                          • rrrrick
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 21

                            #14
                            the "NASCAR" fans standing up is something that annoys me as well, The announcers are as much to blame with their
                            "get on your feet" announcements

                            It is comical when the Outlaws race Vegas during Cup week and the announcer explains over the PA that you must sit down during the races, the Cup crowd looks mystified by that

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                            • ALLDIRT
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 1214

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                              I agree!

                              I was a diehard fan for my whole life (I was in attendance in my mamas womb...lol)! Went about 25 years straight to the 125's! Then , when Brian took over, Nascrap decided to cater to the new fans and kicked us old fans to the curb. Now, theyre trying to get us back....too late!

                              Im a purist.....get rid of the gimmicks and get back to points racing.....that's how every Saturday nite track works!
                              It was about fifteen years ago Kyle Petty said that the good ole boys days was over , time
                              for a new generation of fans . Flat down grading the very people that made Nascar what it is .
                              He said that the new generation and ideals are the future . Well there ya go Kyle , get ya some
                              and remember , the good ole boys don forget .

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