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  • Osiris1241
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 120

    #346
    Your entire first argument is based on ignoring what it means when one says America and American. Both sides may be called Americans, but that doesn't mean the same for each side. An American in the Union Army is fighting for the United States of America. An American in the Confederate Army is fighting for the Confederate States of America. I also already addressed the fact that US military records show that now even 20,000 soldiers served in the US military before the Civil War began. Even if literally every single soldier left at the beginning of the war, those that had served prior to the war wouldnt even make up 2% of Confederate forces. In reality, not even .05% of Confederate troops were serving in the military prior to the war.

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    • Barbecueboy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 18116

      #347
      So what you’re saying is that any American group of people that fight or are at war with recognized American soldiers aren’t really american?
      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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      • dirtMAN007
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 5691

        #348
        Originally posted by Osiris1241 View Post
        Your entire first argument is based on ignoring what it means when one says America and American. Both sides may be called Americans, but that doesn't mean the same for each side. An American in the Union Army is fighting for the United States of America. An American in the Confederate Army is fighting for the Confederate States of America. I also already addressed the fact that US military records show that now even 20,000 soldiers served in the US military before the Civil War began. Even if literally every single soldier left at the beginning of the war, those that had served prior to the war wouldnt even make up 2% of Confederate forces. In reality, not even .05% of Confederate troops were serving in the military prior to the war.
        Got stupid ? You say “ OF AMERICA “ in both armies names ! Maybe that is not what you MEANT to say ?

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        • Barbecueboy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 18116

          #349
          This ought to be a doozy……..wait for it, wait for it.
          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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          • Osiris1241
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2021
            • 120

            #350
            If they are part of a group that considers itself a separate entity and wages actual war against the United States, yes. Either way, these other groups also wouldn't fall under Memorial Day anyways, which was the main point of this argument. If a communist group took up arms and attacked some place in the US and ended up battling US forces, would they suddenly qualify for Memorial Day? They didn't serve in the United States military but they lived in "America" and fought against the US military for what they thought was right, so why not?

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            • ZERO25
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 5240

              #351
              Originally posted by Osiris1241 View Post
              Your entire first argument is based on ignoring what it means when one says America and American. Both sides may be called Americans, but that doesn't mean the same for each side. An American in the Union Army is fighting for the United States of America. An American in the Confederate Army is fighting for the Confederate States of America. I also already addressed the fact that US military records show that now even 20,000 soldiers served in the US military before the Civil War began. Even if literally every single soldier left at the beginning of the war, those that had served prior to the war wouldnt even make up 2% of Confederate forces. In reality, not even .05% of Confederate troops were serving in the military prior to the war.

              So as a Christian......if I fight another Christian over our individual beliefs, that makes us non-Christians? Surely, thou jest! Your argument is nothing but a fallacy!

              But carry on Obamabidenisis!

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              • Osiris1241
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2021
                • 120

                #352
                Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                So as a Christian......if I fight another Christian over our individual beliefs, that makes us non-Christians? Surely, thou jest! Your argument is nothing but a fallacy!But carry on Obamabidenisis!
                You would be different kinds of Christians. Do you believe Jehovahs Witnesses are the exact same kind of Christians as Catholics or Lutherans?

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                • dirtMAN007
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 5691

                  #353
                  Originally posted by Osiris1241 View Post
                  If they are part of a group that considers itself a separate entity and wages actual war against the United States, yes. Either way, these other groups also wouldn't fall under Memorial Day anyways, which was the main point of this argument. If a communist group took up arms and attacked some place in the US and ended up battling US forces, would they suddenly qualify for Memorial Day? They didn't serve in the United States military but they lived in "America" and fought against the US military for what they thought was right, so why not?
                  Would they be THE COMMUNIST ARMY OF AMERICA ? IE the Democrat Party ?

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                  • Raceready
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 4737

                    #354
                    Originally posted by Osiris1241 View Post
                    You would be different kinds of Christians. Do you believe Jehovahs Witnesses are the exact same kind of Christians as Catholics or Lutherans?
                    To heck with those Jehovahs Nitwits ! !

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                    • ZERO25
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 5240

                      #355
                      Originally posted by Osiris1241 View Post
                      You would be different kinds of Christians. Do you believe Jehovahs Witnesses are the exact same kind of Christians as Catholics or Lutherans?
                      Theres only 1...ONE...kind of Christian.......but carry on!

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                      • Osiris1241
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2021
                        • 120

                        #356
                        Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                        Theres only 1...ONE...kind of Christian.......but carry on!
                        I feel Catholics and Orthodox as well as Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses and basically every Christian sect would disagree with you, just like how Sunni and Shia Muslims would disagree there's only one kind of Muslim.

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                        • NorthAlabama
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2018
                          • 519

                          #357
                          With white girls (was 3%, 30% now) and black girls (was 11%, 75% now) having babies out of wedlock and without fathers, Congress just passed a law giving (mo) money to the worthless w-h-o-r-e-s (not suppose to say that word for it is not PC) to have more babies. That is right, incentivized Sin; where is the big letter 'A' that she is to wear? Traded it in for baby showers. For a family today is what ever you want it to be, no morals, not really a family, and not good for children. Sodomy use to be a crime, now it is also glorified. Civil Rights is against nature and God's laws, but look what has happened. Oh, it won't change anything. Children won't be affected; it's all good. The Bible says good will be evil and evil will be good for Civil Rights is destroying the world.

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                          • NorthAlabama
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2018
                            • 519

                            #358
                            A Catholic priest loved his many hens and his one rooster, but before mass on Sunday, he noticed that his rooster was missing. So at mass in front of the congregation he asked, "Has anybody got a c-o-c-k"? All of the men stood up. He replied, "No no, has anybody seen a c-o-c-k"? All of the women stood up. "No no, has anybody seen a c-o-c-k that doesn't belong to them"? Half of the women stood up. "No no no no, has anybody seen my c-o-c-k? Half of the alter boys stood up.

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                            • Osiris1241
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2021
                              • 120

                              #359
                              Ignoring NA's ramblings, I'm still waiting for BBQ's own doozie of a response.

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                              • Osiris1241
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2021
                                • 120

                                #360
                                Idk if I said it before but I will add that I don't think you can't have a day of rememberance for Confederate veterans, my argument is that they simply don't fall under the US Memorial Day. Now obviously, I make fun of Confederate rememberance days, but that's neither here nor there.
                                Last edited by Osiris1241; 07-20-2021, 06:24 AM.

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