Unions and credibility

[kidrock]

one of my best friends went to work for at&t in atlanta right out of collage in 85 , he is finally going to retire , he told me the non union workers had it better than the union workers , said he never understood that , my uncle worked for a local marble quarry , they were union , the company that bought them out told the workers that if they kept the union out , they would give the workers there non union benefits which was better than there union benefits , especially there retirement plan , the young ones would not listen and voted the union in , my uncle retired 2 years later and drew 800 bucks a month less than what he would have gotten with non union benefits , he is 83 now and still pizzed about it , BTW he was a loyal union man his whole life till then , I stand by my belief that unions are no where near as needed as 50 years ago , in most cases they do more harm than good now days , ive never worked a union job so maybe theres things I dont know , but my views are based on years of observation ....

So the non union employees had it better than the union employees but, yet the union employees are greedy. Well I'll be darn who would have known.

[Barbecueboy]

In his example I took it to mean the union folks were trifling and a bit lazier…..but wanted the same money and bennies.

The point has been made that they aren’t all awful and they all shouldn’t be lumped into a sack of their own legacy of corruption and laziness…….we all get that.

[Raceready]

America works best when you go union less ! !

[kidrock]

BBQ that's just BS about union workers being lazy. Like I've said before you have lazy people no matter if they work in a union or not.

[Raceready]

BBQ that's just BS about union workers being lazy. Like I've said before you have lazy people no matter if they work in a union or not.

But in a non-union environment the slatherazzes get their lazy azzes ran on off but the union cherishes and protects them ! !

[kidrock]

But in a non-union environment the slatherazzes get their lazy azzes ran on off but the union cherishes and protects them ! !

Oh yes unions cherishes lazy people. OK

[kidrock]

Our company did not allow you to be lazy. It had nothing to do with the union. The company set the work load not the union. The union never told me what to do but, the company did and if you didn't do your work you were disciplined for it. Yes in union you have some protection but, if the company wants to disciplined you they would. I've seen guys get fired my cousin being one of them. I've watch guys get suspended for 3 days for leaving their company door unlocked but, yes you're right in the private sector they can fire you on the spot. So this goes back to are you a good employee or a bad employee. If you're a bad employee and are lazy you're gong to be that way if you work for a union or not. and if you're a good employee and are not lazy well again more that likely you're that way if you're union or not.

[dirtMAN007]

But in a non-union environment the slatherazzes get their lazy azzes ran on off but the union cherishes and protects them ! !

True story !

[Buford.Justice]

You guys got him good!!!!

[fastford]

kid , I have never been against the idea of a union , I just cant see there relevance to society as a whole any more with any thing they do , I did agree with the rail workers , but our president squashed that deal , any way , I think we all know each others views and that probably want change ....

[kidrock]

kid , I have never been against the idea of a union , I just cant see there relevance to society as a whole any more with any thing they do , I did agree with the rail workers , but our president squashed that deal , any way , I think we all know each others views and that probably want change ....

I've always maintained you treat your employee's right with a decent wage if your business allows it. Give them some decent benefits. Treat them with respect and they will in return be good loyal workers for your company.

I agree we know our views by now lol....

Thanks for a decent civil back and forth.

[fastford]

no problem kid

[Barbecueboy]

Oh yes unions cherishes lazy people. OK

They protect them because of tenure instead of firing them for crappy performance….it’s pretty common.

[dirtMAN007]

True story !

[kidrock]

Dirtman and raceready just because I can afford something doesn't mean I have to buy it. Trust me I can afford dirtvision I just don't think it's that great of a deal. My wife and I are very Froogle with our money and we don't try and keep up with the Jones. If I don't think it's a good deal I'm not buying it.