Trump and the Ukraine War

[lurker]

No country that actively and unnecessarily interferes with our elections -----

Is that from a court of law or just public opinion from your Leftist propaganda rags?

Or just another lie like your MS13 lie in another thread? You know, the one I busted you on where you blatantly lied and just skipped it when you were busted.

[Tyy7777]

No harm no foul, but buddy, I wouldn't trust a word out of your Liberal mouth or anything your left Leaning fingers type.


Engage? Now you’re being funny. I’ve engaged more than you know, you just aren't smart enough to recognize it.


And for the record here on 4m for the umptenth time, I am a moderate to Conservative Libertarian, not a Trumper.


Keep digging your hole.

If not Trumper, why Trumper shaped?

You seem to be brainwashed by "all left = bad". Good enough for me.

[Tyy7777]

Is that from a court of law or just public opinion from your Leftist propaganda rags?

Or just another lie like your MS13 lie in another thread? You know, the one I busted you on where you blatantly lied and just skipped it when you were busted.

Oh, oh. You're speaking a little too confidently.

Source 1 - 2017 Report from the United States Intelligence Community comprising of the ODNI, CIA, FBI and NSA: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf

Source 2 - Mueller Report commissioned by the Trump-Appointed Deputy-Attorney-General Rod Rosenstein: https://ia801302.us.archive.org/18/i...Volume%201.pdf

Source 3 - Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report that was released in late 2020: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/...ctive-measures

You're going to have to try harder I'm afraid. Nothing I've put out is propaganda. Here we have government sources. In regards to the previous post I provided independent studies. The entire post on Ukraine was backed up by research and the words of hundreds of intellectuals who have forgotten more in the last month than you'll ever know.

And for the record I did respond to your posts about Garcia. I did so while responding to a comment from Morgs153. That report shared nothing I, and everyone else, didn't already know. It wasn't proof he was an MS-13 gang member.

[lurker]

You don’t even know who Mcarter815 is, do you?

[lurker]

---------------- It wasn't proof he was an MS-13 gang member. [/B]

Sure it did.

[Buford.Justice]

Talk about clueless, you take the cake. And I'm not a Trumper either.

He takes the cake all right. Had it not been Trump but another Rep conservative such as Cruz as president, he would be doing the same thing to him. He loves propaganda and any false fabrications made that berate Republicans. Just like all brainwashed by communism citizens. A total lost cause in the American way!!!

[Tyy7777]

He takes the cake all right. Had it not been Trump but another Rep conservative such as Cruz as president, he would be doing the same thing to him. He loves propaganda and any false fabrications made that berate Republicans. Just like all brainwashed by communism citizens. A total lost cause in the American way!!!

I don't hate all republicans. That being said the Republican Party is gone. It's the MAGA party now. John McCain was the last respectable Republican. I liked Romney as well. Genuinely good people who I disagreed with. Trump is not a good person.

[Tyy7777]

Sure it did.

Feel free to point at which bit of evidence did.

[lurker]

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/...story-violence

[Tyy7777]

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/04/16/...story-violence

I asked you what bit of evidence proved the fact. I've seen this article. What bit of evidence determines he's a gang member? A traffic stop where a bulls hat with money rolls was found?

Couple of facts. He's only ever been photographed with a Bulls hat that has no money rolls (as far as I'm aware) and secondly IT ISN'T EVEN A GANG SYMBOL TO BEGIN WITH.

Two judges at a BAIL HEARING found him guilty of being a member based off an anonymous tip. That was only for bail. That is not being found criminally guilty.

The SCOTUS ruled 9-0 (remember it's stacked in Trump's favor) that he should return.

Make no mistake, Garcia is probably a very unsavory character, but like everyone else he deserves due process.

Not to mention publishing that TPO is an incredible invasion of privacy and there were a number of things that should have been covered up. Wouldn't expect anything less from this pathetic administration. Right in tune with good ol Whiskey Leaks over at the Department of Defense

[Buford.Justice]

TY you are such a brainwashed tool. Trump is world's beyond your one handed IQ. All you have is globalist propaganda hit pieces of fabricated lies about Trump. You need a tar and feather makeover, with a cherry on top! lolol

[Buford.Justice]

I asked you what bit of evidence proved the fact. I've seen this article. What bit of evidence determines he's a gang member? A traffic stop where a bulls hat with money rolls was found?

Couple of facts. He's only ever been photographed with a Bulls hat that has no money rolls (as far as I'm aware) and secondly IT ISN'T EVEN A GANG SYMBOL TO BEGIN WITH.

Two judges at a BAIL HEARING found him guilty of being a member based off an anonymous tip. That was only for bail. That is not being found criminally guilty.

The SCOTUS ruled 9-0 (remember it's stacked in Trump's favor) that he should return.

Make no mistake, Garcia is probably a very unsavory character, but like everyone else he deserves due process.

Not to mention publishing that TPO is an incredible invasion of privacy and there were a number of things that should have been covered up. Wouldn't expect anything less from this pathetic administration. Right in tune with good ol Whiskey Leaks over at the Department of Defense

The due process was supposed to happen before these criminals and mobs of people even crossed the border. Our laws are that they entered illegally and by law should be deported, and no there is not enough time in the next century to remove these illegals with all of the lawfare loopholes and leftist activist judges fighting to keep them in the country.

So you want these gang illegals to stay in the country, and of course you are against white south Africans coming to America to escape actual genecide, I bet. What reason do you have to want south American gang members to come to America and get to stay? What reason?

Treasonous congressmen and white house "occupants" need to be held accountable for their actions and you worry your butt off about Trump having success? Oy Vey!!!

[Tyy7777]

TY you are such a brainwashed tool. Trump is world's beyond your one handed IQ. All you have is globalist propaganda hit pieces of fabricated lies about Trump. You need a tar and feather makeover, with a cherry on top! lolol

Well you've convinced me

[Tyy7777]

The due process was supposed to happen before these criminals and mobs of people even crossed the border. Our laws are that they entered illegally and by law should be deported, and no there is not enough time in the next century to remove these illegals with all of the lawfare loopholes and leftist activist judges fighting to keep them in the country.

So you want these gang illegals to stay in the country, and of course you are against white south Africans coming to America to escape actual genecide, I bet. What reason do you have to want south American gang members to come to America and get to stay? What reason?

Treasonous congressmen and white house "occupants" need to be held accountable for their actions and you worry your butt off about Trump having success? Oy Vey!!!

The due process did happen. He was an unaccompanied minor fleeing from another country (that wasn't Canada or Mexico). Under the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act (TVPRA), he was given to right to argue that he was in credible danger back home and he was given the right to do so under a fair trial as opposed to being rushed through the system.

It was actually specifically the 2008 version of that act which was brought into law by, well, you guessed it. Mr Illegal Immigration himself. W Bush.


There's also no genocide happening in South Africa. If only someone close to Trump had a motive to claim so?

I don't want South American gang members to stay here. Learn to read.

[Tyy7777]

I'm nearly proud of Trump. He's coming to his senses on Putin.

This was from a press gaggle today.
Trump: "I'm not happy with what Putin is doing. He's killing a lot of people and I don't know what the hell happened to Putin. I've known him a long time ... we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets into Kyiv and other cities. I don't like it at all. I'm surprised."

Only taken the better part of a decade lol. Wonder if his supporters will change their tune?