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  • kidrock
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 16407

    #31
    Originally posted by TS FAN View Post
    Liberals=can't fix stupid. Media equals=Can't fix stupid.

    Here is a question for the liberals. Its an oldie but a goody. You ever get a job from a poor person?

    Most people that own small business are poor so I would say there are plenty of people that have been hired by poor people. Most small business are going month to month just to stay in business.

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    • kidrock
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 16407

      #32
      Originally posted by J. Steve Davis View Post
      I worked in a union and was proud of it. Made good money but nobody was ever satisfied. Always wanted more of everything. Now all they want is a job. I am a co -owner of a small family business and all we get from the government are bills you wouldn't know anything about. Some only see one side of everything. It's not all peaches and cream. Unions aren't so bad, its the greed that comes with them. It's also nice to negotiate a contract with friends rather than your enemies. I'm not so negative that I'm not proud of everything we have fought for in this country. But there are two sides to most of our problems. We still have the best country in the world. GO AMERICA!!!!!

      Good people make good things happen.

      I will agree with you on the greed part of the unions but, that can be said about some of the private companies as well.

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      • p-towne
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 2795

        #33
        Many college students may be Ignorant---Many college grads cannot get work once they have their degree.. By the time a person leaves college they should be able to make up their own mind on liberal/conservitive views'. Somewhere along the line a consevitive must have went to college??

        Colleges do put people in debt--No doubt.---The escalating college debt is also partly due to that now more than ever students have to go in debt to recieve a education.

        Familys have lost that college fund--Working your way thru school is now more difficult than ever--Family men and women now have to take the jobs once held by high school and college students----

        I have no problem with wealthy people--America needs their wealth ---Corps's and business should make money--

        I am going to make you yawn one more time--There is class warfare -- As evident as water running down hill. Business large and small are not creating jobs. No matter how much welfare they get from Local-state-federal Govt. They are not Creating jobs for the American people.------ It is not that difficult to figure out.........................

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        • J. Steve Davis
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 549

          #34
          Originally posted by kidrock View Post
          I will agree with you on the greed part of the unions but, that can be said about some of the private companies as well.
          I will agree with you. I have known companys who treated their employees like crap.

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          • big.ed
            Banned
            • Dec 2008
            • 501

            #35
            Originally posted by t.nie View Post
            As far as the picture posted, kinda looks like Obama is touring yet another bombed out hole left in the ground by BUSH. You want to know who blew your retirement account, your savings, your pay raise and your tax cut, go talk to the world's most infamous and arrogant free mass murderer down in his mansion in Texas.

            BTW, have you guys heard the news? G Dub can't travel to certain nations any more because if he does, he's going to jail for the crimes he committed while in office. I.E. starting a war using lies and deceit, killing thousands without just cause, and basically lying to everyone in the world.

            Bombs cost money. War costs money. And baby Bush brought us both. Thanks, G Dub, for the memories and the rest of our lives paying for your stupidity.
            if he is criminal so is obummer

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            • dirtisforracin
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 545

              #36
              A few things. First college degrees does not mean anything, unless it can be applied to a job in the real world. Too many degrees dont have any potential. A degree in Philosophy, English Lit, as examples are not going to get you far. Also this country has used a college education as a be all, end all. We dont have enough vocational jobs. Welders, Electrians etc.
              Our education system is a mess. I know a recent high school gradsthat could not read a ruler or balance a check bood. Education should be a local decision by local school boards.

              Bush a war criminal. Guess Obama is as well. Unmaned drone attacks in countries we are not at war against comes to mind. Also the using drones to kill terrorist, instead of capturing them. Btw Have no problem with killing them. I just find it funny you dems were outraged by waterboarding 3 terrorist, yet Killing them is just fine and dandy??

              I'm wondering how much Trumpka and other union leaders make?? Tired of hearing about class warfare. Dont think that will change anything, except envy. Btw which is another sin, as is greed.

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              • J. Steve Davis
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 549

                #37
                Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                As far as the picture posted, kinda looks like Obama is touring yet another bombed out hole left in the ground by BUSH. You want to know who blew your retirement account, your savings, your pay raise and your tax cut, go talk to the world's most infamous and arrogant free mass murderer down in his mansion in Texas.

                BTW, have you guys heard the news? G Dub can't travel to certain nations any more because if he does, he's going to jail for the crimes he committed while in office. I.E. starting a war using lies and deceit, killing thousands without just cause, and basically lying to everyone in the world.

                Bombs cost money. War costs money. And baby Bush brought us both. Thanks, G Dub, for the memories and the rest of our lives paying for your stupidity.
                Old News. Didn't both sides agree to go to war? Then is only one person responsible?
                Now,how many people has Obama killed? You going to give him a free pass? How many of their own people did these tyrants kill and still would be killing or does those humans beings make any difference to you? I hate war myself. It sucks. I bet a lot of people in Iraq are glad what we did. Maybe some will have a chance at a better life.
                Will be glad when our troops come home!!!!!! They've done a good job!!!!

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                • MotorMouth
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 419

                  #38
                  Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Post
                  A few things. First college degrees does not mean anything, unless it can be applied to a job in the real world. Too many degrees dont have any potential. A degree in Philosophy, English Lit, as examples are not going to get you far. Also this country has used a college education as a be all, end all. We dont have enough vocational jobs. Welders, Electrians etc.
                  Our education system is a mess. I know a recent high school gradsthat could not read a ruler or balance a check bood. Education should be a local decision by local school boards.

                  Bush a war criminal. Guess Obama is as well. Unmaned drone attacks in countries we are not at war against comes to mind. Also the using drones to kill terrorist, instead of capturing them. Btw Have no problem with killing them. I just find it funny you dems were outraged by waterboarding 3 terrorist, yet Killing them is just fine and dandy??

                  I'm wondering how much Trumpka and other union leaders make?? Tired of hearing about class warfare. Dont think that will change anything, except envy. Btw which is another sin, as is greed.
                  Good post! One place this government can save money is by doing away with the waste that is the Department of Education. Allow the state and local levels to control what is relevant to their areas.

                  Education at the college level is much of what dirtisforracin said. America is in dire need of engineers. We no longer have people that are interested in creating in the industrial area. We can not sustain a national economy with just teachers, poets and lawyers. Yet, so many of the "occupiers" want to start out with top pay and do not want to work their way up through life like many have had to do. Ingenuity, creativity, desire and effort are what has made America a great nation, not sitting on a street corner whining about how the world is not making everything perfect for them.
                  I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.
                  ~Hillary Clinton~

                  ************
                  Thank you C4Vette

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                  • Scotty
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 280

                    #39
                    The majority of Americans voted for change in the last Presidential election. They got it. Unfortunately it was about 2 cents. We could have got that out of the little bowl at the local convenience store and it wouldn't have been near as painful. Surely we can do better in the next Presidential election. I hope all remember how much change we got the last few years when we enter into the voting booth in the future.
                    Pavement is for getting you there. Dirt is for racing.

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                    • joytoy
                      Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 41

                      #40
                      work ethic main problem

                      I have been union employee and non union employer one rule the same 20% excel 60% cruise 20% should be replaced lack of drive,integrity and effort have a lot to do with today's results

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                      • anthonycacace
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 267

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                        Seriously the vote was unamimous about going to war with Iraq, but next time we'll just let them knock down the entire Times Square ( excluding Mosques of course)!!

                        A devout liberal as you are, you will always blame someone else instead of seeking the actual truth.
                        Well Clayton, you just confirmed you are losing it. The Iraq War resolution was NOT passed unanimously.

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                        • MotorMouth
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 419

                          #42
                          It is correct that it was not a unanimous vote but it is true that in a Senate with a split vote (50/50) the vote was controlled heavily in favor of the war as only 23 Senators voted against it.
                          I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.
                          ~Hillary Clinton~

                          ************
                          Thank you C4Vette

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                          • Clayton_Wetter
                            Banned
                            • May 2007
                            • 16671

                            #43
                            Originally posted by anthonycacace View Post
                            Well Clayton, you just confirmed you are losing it. The Iraq War resolution was NOT passed unanimously.

                            http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...p?n=BSS;c=107|
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                            • t.nie
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 1146

                              #44
                              And how many more Senators would have said NO WAY had they been told the truth about WMDs, instead of the crooked Bush Administration's lies?

                              3 steps to being a right winger: 1-deny the facts, 2 deny that you ever denied the facts then 3-deny the fact that you denied you deny the facts.

                              By that time, people like Wetter are so absolutely convinced that 3 wrongs make everything alright they just keep voting for you anyway...

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                              • anthonycacace
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 267

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                                Your Search Has Timed Out
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                                Yep, they are temporary and I forgot they do this. Originally, I was going to go with wiki, but thought the actual Congressional record would be better. Here is the wiki link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution The number of House members for it wrong though. The record only shows 296 yeas to 133 nays. Wiki has 297 yeas in the House.

                                The point is, you were blasting someone else for their lack of understanding the 'truth' while, you spread a falsehood at the same time.

                                Another irony is, even when given the fact right in front of you on the object at hand (your 'EU' bldg. picture), you still try to find a way to excuse it. But, that's OK as we are all human. I would simply like you to own up to an error once in a while. Is this not what you ask of Obama?
                                Last edited by anthonycacace; 11-05-2011, 04:46 PM.

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