George Zimmerman Trial

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  • LITE-INN
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    • Feb 2008
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    #16
    aren't they from washington Dc

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    • LITE-INN
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      • Feb 2008
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      #17
      Originally posted by t.nie View Post
      Because this needed to be exposed to force people to act.

      Here's what happened. Zimmerman shot Martin. There were NO witnesses who saw that happen. None. Some people heard a scuffle in the dark, they called 911, Martin was talking to his friend right before this happened, but there was no live connection on the phone so she didn't hear what happened, and then there are the 911 calls where the yelling is heard, very garbled, in the background.

      But there were NO witnesses who could categorically say "I was standing right there and saw the whole thing." None. No witnesses.

      So the cops interview Zimmerman, he says it was self-defense, the investigating officer recommends charging him, the powers that be in Sanford say no and close the case.

      Now, if that's your kid that just got shot, you are going to be sitting there saying "What the heck? This guy shoots my kid, no one is there to tell me my kid started the fight or what happened, the guy who shot my kid says MY KID started it and got killed by this guy because he was defending himself but NO ONE is a witness to this, and we are all just supposed to go away quietly without ever having a trial to see what we can find out? Really? That's it? Zimmerman says it was that way so we all have to just believe him? Really?"

      That is exactly why all the media. Because the only person who was there was George Zimmerman with a gun and Trayvon Martin is dead. Sorry, but I think we need a trial and all the evidence heard in court too, because without a trial, all of the facts surrounding this kid's death will never be known. Without all the media, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Obama, no one is going to do anything to get to the truth. It would just be George Zimmerman said this is why I shot him, self defense, and we all just have to believe him. If that is accepted, then any time you shoot someone when no one is around, you just say "it was self defense" and the cops just go "oh, ok, well, since no one else was there to see it, we'll just take your word for it. Have a nice day."

      George Zimmerman is innocent of the charges brought against him is my honest assessment, and going into this I was leaning toward Zimmerman being found guilty. But now that I have heard the evidence, listened to the testimony, etc, I do not believe he is guilty. I believe he did act in self defense. But without a trial, no one would ever really know what evidence was gathered or why the police decided to believe him.
      what makes this trial any different than any other crime/ murder

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      • bite me too
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        • May 2007
        • 795

        #18
        Originally posted by STRNGRTHANDIRT View Post
        Geez, I feel sorry for the jurors, if they vote for aquittal their lives are pretty much over at least in short term. The death threats will begin as soon as the verdict is issued. Plus, who knows what the New Black Panther Party will do. They seem to be pretty much above the law.
        Do jurors identities have to be disclosed in Florida?

        And, here's a "NBPP" story from the Washington Times...

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nd-street-man/
        www.ctcphotos.com

        http://www.ctcphotos.com/hommel.htm

        "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan

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        • mudslinger47
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          • May 2007
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          #19
          If this would have been the other way around, you'd have never heard a word....

          It is "NEVER" right for the US Government to conspire against a single citizen such as has happened to Zimmerman. I don't think most of these idiot libs understand that, present company "INCLUDED"...

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          • t.nie
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 1146

            #20
            What I am getting tired of hearing is "Trayvon didn't do anything wrong, he was just walking home minding his own business with Tea and Skittles."

            Really? The pundits like Sharpton and Melissa Harris-Perry conveniently forget that Trayvon Martin attacked and attempted to beat the crap out of George Zimmerman before Zimmerman shot him. If this was in my neck of the woods, we would say "you throw a punch at a guy and get your arse kicked or killed, you got what you had coming to you, regardless of what the other dude did to make you mad. Around here, people have guns and know how to use them, so no matter how mad someone might make you, don't get yourself killed for no good reason."

            A lesson Trayvon learned the hard way.

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            • LITE-INN
              Banned
              • Feb 2008
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              #21
              thats your dummycraps for you

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              • 15jr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 482

                #22
                Gotta say I agree. I too watched the whole trial. I didn't pay too much attention to the run up before because I knew it would be pretty partisan based accounts. I don't trust the media from either side anymore. I just listened to the case evidence and the witness testimony.

                Based on that I came to the same conclusion. I too like the idea of a fair fight. If it's fists then let it be fists. The issue is now we have concealed carry which I am def for. This is going to be a game changer for those that try to take advantage of the weaker among us. What we have here is a cross up when those two things collide. Martin sucker punches Zimmerman and knocks him down. Slams his head into the concrete sidewalk several times and tries to smother Zimmerman as well. I believe Zimmerman was dazed at this point and was not fighting back or at least wasn't doing a good job of it. Somehow the gun gets uncovered and Martin goes for it. The struggle over the gun ends with Zimmerman ending up with it and Martin fighting back and then shot.

                My opinion is Martin was winning that fight with his fists and didn't need the gun. In fact after the sucker punch Martin should have fled the scene and went home. The whole thug mentality got the best of him and ended up getting him killed.

                In my eyes no one won wins here. A kid is dead, a man has pretty much lost his life due to the media bias and trial. The state tried to hide evidence and in my eyes were very biased towards the prosecution all through the case. The states case was so weak they ended up proving doubt of their own case, with their own witnesses. It was a political case that ended up losing.

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                • CIRF
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8122

                  #23
                  Show some respect and don't pick fights for no good reason and you likely won't get shot.

                  An old Colt Firearms add read like this: "God Created All Men, Sam Colt Made 'Em Equal".

                  Don't matter how big and bad you are, that 9mm will take ya' down.

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
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                    • May 2007
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                    What I am getting tired of hearing is "Trayvon didn't do anything wrong, he was just walking home minding his own business with Tea and Skittles."

                    Really? The pundits like Sharpton and Melissa Harris-Perry conveniently forget that Trayvon Martin attacked and attempted to beat the crap out of George Zimmerman before Zimmerman shot him. If this was in my neck of the woods, we would say "you throw a punch at a guy and get your arse kicked or killed, you got what you had coming to you, regardless of what the other dude did to make you mad. Around here, people have guns and know how to use them, so no matter how mad someone might make you, don't get yourself killed for no good reason."

                    A lesson Trayvon learned the hard way.
                    Totally agreed. Thank you t.nie!

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
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                      #25
                      New Black Panthers Offer $10K For George Zimmerman Capture [Video]


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                      These people are the ones that need a reward on their heads!!
                      Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 07-18-2013, 03:43 PM.

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                      • big.ed
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                        • Dec 2008
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                        #26
                        Oh my gawd Clayton agreed with tni e

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                        • Clayton_Wetter
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by big.ed View Post
                          Oh my gawd Clayton agreed with tni e
                          I don't care who it is. When someone says something that is true then I support them!!! lol

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                          • buster83
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                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1878

                            #28
                            (not guilty) for a working man that was just doing his job. to me the TM was hiding something or he would not have jumped Zman which was a bad mistake on his part to assault a night watchman everything thing else that lead up to it was that nothing had been done wrong.

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14303

                              #29
                              Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                              What I am getting tired of hearing is "Trayvon didn't do anything wrong, he was just walking home minding his own business with Tea and Skittles."

                              Really? The pundits like Sharpton and Melissa Harris-Perry conveniently forget that Trayvon Martin attacked and attempted to beat the crap out of George Zimmerman before Zimmerman shot him. If this was in my neck of the woods, we would say "you throw a punch at a guy and get your arse kicked or killed, you got what you had coming to you, regardless of what the other dude did to make you mad. Around here, people have guns and know how to use them, so no matter how mad someone might make you, don't get yourself killed for no good reason."

                              A lesson Trayvon learned the hard way.
                              For once in my life, I agree with 98% of the stuff Tnie has said in this thread. I am shocked.

                              My only difference of opinion is with the way Obama handled this. He could have called for an examination in the case without his "Trayvon could have been my son" BS that did nothing but fan racial flames.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                              • STRNGRTHANDIRT
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 969

                                #30
                                ...and today he said that could have been him 35 years ago. Why doesn't he just shut the he!! up! It always has to be about him!

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