Zimmerman should not have left the car once he did he was starting something that got way out of his control. he is a coward with a gun he picked a fight and once he started to get his but whipped he pulled his gun and shot the kid. this is going to be the first trail of this kind but with the new gun laws and stand your ground laws it's opening up a new problem. people starting fights just so they will be legally able to shot and kill others.
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t.nie
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What I am getting tired of hearing is "Trayvon didn't do anything wrong, he was just walking home minding his own business with Tea and Skittles."
Really? The pundits like Sharpton and Melissa Harris-Perry conveniently forget that Trayvon Martin attacked and attempted to beat the crap out of George Zimmerman before Zimmerman shot him. If this was in my neck of the woods, we would say "you throw a punch at a guy and get your arse kicked or killed, you got what you had coming to you, regardless of what the other dude did to make you mad. Around here, people have guns and know how to use them, so no matter how mad someone might make you, don't get yourself killed for no good reason."
A lesson Trayvon learned the hard way.
As tnie stated and I agree. Zimmerman did not pick a fight, he was assaulted and got his nose broke right off the bat by Martin.
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Tell me exactly HOW he "picked a fight". What did Zimmerman do that was so wrong? Is it picking a fight to follow someone? Did he not have the same right to walk the neighborhood as Trayvon? Seems to me if TM wasn't doing anything wrong all he had to do was keep walking home. Instead, he chose to go on the offensive. If you have proof anything else happened, I'm all ears.Originally posted by racin6mod View PostZimmerman should not have left the car once he did he was starting something that got way out of his control. he is a coward with a gun he picked a fight and once he started to get his but whipped he pulled his gun and shot the kid. this is going to be the first trail of this kind but with the new gun laws and stand your ground laws it's opening up a new problem. people starting fights just so they will be legally able to shot and kill others.
People need to quit looking at race as an excuse. Not everything is about race.
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You support them if it's your version of the truth. In this case you got it right. There may be hope for you.Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View PostI don't care who it is. When someone says something that is true then I support them!!! lol
This, your, my, or our version of the truth is precisely why we have so many displeased with this trial outcome. They get locked into thinking one way and unconsciously won't allow any other form of truth. They don't want to hear any other form of truth, much less considering it's voracity.
How many times, do you hear a Lib saying, I won't even watch FOX news, it's all lies or a conservative saying the same about CNN. Here we have black and white people with their preconceived version of the truth. Some valid, some not. That's my version of the truth.
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he got out of his car after he had called 911 and then did what they told him not to do which was get out of his car follow the kid and confront him. A police officer was on the way after he called them he simple should have done as he was instructed and watched the kid from his car and reported his finding to the officer when he arrived !! that is all a neighborhood watchman does watch and report!!Originally posted by skids View PostTell me exactly HOW he "picked a fight". What did Zimmerman do that was so wrong? Is it picking a fight to follow someone? Did he not have the same right to walk the neighborhood as Trayvon? Seems to me if TM wasn't doing anything wrong all he had to do was keep walking home. Instead, he chose to go on the offensive. If you have proof anything else happened, I'm all ears.
People need to quit looking at race as an excuse. Not everything is about race.
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A 911 dispatcher is not an officer and cannot tell you what to do. Actually, in many situations they are instructed not to give any advise or instruction.Originally posted by racin6mod View Posthe got out of his car after he had called 911 and then did what they told him not to do which was get out of his car follow the kid and confront him. A police officer was on the way after he called them he simple should have done as he was instructed and watched the kid from his car and reported his finding to the officer when he arrived !! that is all a neighborhood watchman does watch and report!!Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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He wasn't confronting TM at the time he got jumped.Originally posted by racin6mod View Posthe got out of his car after he had called 911 and then did what they told him not to do which was get out of his car follow the kid and confront him. A police officer was on the way after he called them he simple should have done as he was instructed and watched the kid from his car and reported his finding to the officer when he arrived !! that is all a neighborhood watchman does watch and report!!
I could just hear people if TM would have turned out to have harmed someone or broke into someone's home while Zimmerman sat in his car. Then the rage would be, "why didn't you follow him if he was suspicious looking?"
The FACT remains, ZImmerman did NOTHING illegal. TM assaulted him (which IS illegal) and Zimmerman feared his life could be in danger. That is ALL that is required for self defense.
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Martin ducked into the shadows, waited, jumped out and assaulted Zimmerman with a punch to his nose, broke it, and then proceeded to start pounding his head on the concrete. Unless you support promoting civil unrest that the left is doing as well as acting as if they are falsly standing up for injustice against blacks, then YOU get to spin the facts to. You even sound racist against Mexicans. Ever consider that? That's what this is all about. OUR supposed government stirring up division with a hand picked agenda driven incident in which a black person died. Don't you see that this is all about a political agenda, and that is all?Originally posted by racin6mod View Posthe got out of his car after he had called 911 and then did what they told him not to do which was get out of his car follow the kid and confront him. A police officer was on the way after he called them he simple should have done as he was instructed and watched the kid from his car and reported his finding to the officer when he arrived !! that is all a neighborhood watchman does watch and report!!
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This is not a race thing or a nra thing it's simply a guy going to fare if he would not have gotten out of the car nothing else would have happened the kid knew that he was being watched so he would not have done anything wrong from that point on that is the reason for neighborhood watches. most are not carrying gun's for this very reason.
once Zimmerman put up his web site asking others to pay for his living and his lawyer fee's he welcomed the media circus that has gone crazy over this.I do find it interesting that the same people who claim to dislike those that free load are behind this one 100 percent. the team that got him off was not cheap and they have asked those that gave money to him to give a little more.Last edited by racin6mod; 07-20-2013, 04:15 PM.
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I think this is the second time I have told you. He was going back to his vehicle when he got jumped by TM. You really should go look at the facts of the trial instead of taking you clues from the media. Even IF he would have continued to follow TM he would still have been justified. It was his duty and it is not against the law to follow someone.
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He got out of his car. Wow that is just wrong. Call the Justice Department, I think you're on to some leverage for the prosecution!!!Originally posted by racin6mod View PostThis is not a race thing or a nra thing it's simply a guy going to fare if he would not have gotten out of the car nothing else would have happened the kid knew that he was being watched so he would not have done anything wrong from that point on that is the reason for neighborhood watches. most are not carrying gun's for this very reason.
once Zimmerman put up his web site asking others to pay for his living and his lawyer fee's he welcomed the media circus that has gone crazy over this.I do find it interesting that the same people who claim to dislike those that free load are behind this one 100 percent. the team that got him off was not cheap and they have asked those that gave money to him to give a little more.
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You are right again, Martin could have headed straight home instead of prowling the neighborhood. Until the car left and then hit the hood again later on!!Originally posted by racin6mod View PostThis is not a race thing or a nra thing it's simply a guy going to fare if he would not have gotten out of the car nothing else would have happened the kid knew that he was being watched so he would not have done anything wrong from that point on that is the reason for neighborhood watches. most are not carrying gun's for this very reason.
once Zimmerman put up his web site asking others to pay for his living and his lawyer fee's he welcomed the media circus that has gone crazy over this.I do find it interesting that the same people who claim to dislike those that free load are behind this one 100 percent. the team that got him off was not cheap and they have asked those that gave money to him to give a little more.
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This was the first real test of the stand your ground laws. All of what happend came from Zimmerman because dead men cant tell thier side of the story or testify for that matter. Leads thinking people to wonder if both sides of the story would have agreed. Things like did Zimmerman have his gun out?, did Martin really jump from the shadows? Did Zimmerman throw the first punch and missed then got his ass handed to him to the point where deadly force was used? We do know he was told by the police to stand down and not to confront him. As for the how the fight started it is a biased story of a man up on murder charges. But the moment he disobeyed the police order it become obvious he was looking for trouble. I dont think murder was the charges they should have tried him on but manslaughter was a place to start. Hell hit a kid that comes running out between 2 cars with your car and kill them and you will be charged with manslaughter automaticly.
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