Negative 16.8% of unemployment insurance

[LITE-INN]

and the koch bro are big time employers

[Clayton_Wetter]

and the koch bro are big time employers

It's the left tactics of creating "bad Guys" (wink wink) to divert attention from their own bad behavior.

[racin6mod]

and the koch bro are big time employers

HE11 yes they are they have 98 percent of the gop on payroll.

[Clayton_Wetter]

HE11 yes they are they have 98 percent of the gop on payroll.

Who told you that Shotgun Joe?

You should be thankful that the Koch brother support government reform, ending ObummerCare, No carbon taxes, you know? Just the general constitutional values. But since the Democrats and the media tell you otherwise, you don't realize this. As far as the GOP on their payroll, that myth (or total lie) is WAY out there!!

[kidrock]

HE11 yes they are they have 98 percent of the gop on payroll.

The problem is they are both bought and paid for by the elitist. Why do you think they keep propping up wall st by printing more money and injecting it into the economy.

[Bubstr]

The problem is they are both bought and paid for by the elitist. Why do you think they keep propping up wall st by printing more money and injecting it into the economy.

Very true, but Clayton heard on FOX that all republicans will sprout wings before mid term elections. Some people will believe anything, just because the truth is so uncomfortable.

[racin6mod]

The problem is they are both bought and paid for by the elitist. Why do you think they keep propping up wall st by printing more money and injecting it into the economy.

this is very true and thanks to the supreme court the problem has gotten crazy and out of control. funny thing is you never hear even on fox that the dems in congress left for break and instead of going home to hear from those that voted them in instead went to an all expense paid outting at a resort in a secret location. the gop do it all the time even on the state level look at wis. after they voted they went out the back door got in a bus and went on a trip paid for by you know it the Koch brothers. lets get the money out and make them fund their own campaigns.

[kidrock]

this is very true and thanks to the supreme court the problem has gotten crazy and out of control. funny thing is you never hear even on fox that the dems in congress left for break and instead of going home to hear from those that voted them in instead went to an all expense paid outting at a resort in a secret location. the gop do it all the time even on the state level look at wis. after they voted they went out the back door got in a bus and went on a trip paid for by you know it the Koch brothers. lets get the money out and make them fund their own campaigns.

I agree 100%, the money has ruined politics. The Elitist are on their way to get control of everything and when they do there will be only 2 classes. Those that have and those that have not. Look at how much wealth they have right now and look at the middle class and how fast we are declining. We as Americans need to find a way to abolish the federal reserve. Why should we have to barrow money from them that's just stupid. They are killing us with their corruption.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Very true, but Clayton heard on FOX that all republicans will sprout wings before mid term elections. Some people will believe anything, just because the truth is so uncomfortable.

Where did I say such. You think I'm totally stuck on FOX but that's not true. At least they are not a government ran media network like CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, AL Jazeera, RT, etc.

Would you prefer that I watch those stations instead. And I though you called yourself a Libertarian?

[balljoint]

How will it ever end?

Don't participate. Don't vote at presidential level. Doesn't matter anyway. Im sure whoever they have picked to win the next election will be WORSE than the disgrace we have now. The only way to bring the system down is to not participate. Or else more of the same is GUARANTEEED.

A third party? We will be brainwashed into believing they eat babies. Or a FAKE party member will be paid to say they hate whites or they hate queers and everyone will jump on the bandwagon. people are stupid.

waiting for an asteroid or Russia/China please.

Any adult making minimum wage deserves it.

[t.nie]

That has got to be some of the most ridiculous stuff I've ever seen on 4M. When you stand with liars you must automatically believe the liars. They tell you this stuff and you believe it without question. But it's just plain utter nonsense. Obummer with the aid of his buddy Bernanke are printing money and making the wealthy even more wealthy and at the same time taking from small business and the middle class. More taxes coming for the rich, but not the wealthy, and Obummer says nothing. Except more lies.

Read this. It explains how you are misguided on the "printing money" and "creating wealth for the wealthy" coming from quantitative easing.

http://business.time.com/2013/09/18/taper-tantrums-3-myths-about-quantitative-easing/

Then there is a link to this article here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/corporate-profits-just-hit-an-all-time-high-wages-just-hit-an-all-time-low-2012-6

that explains that in part, you are correct, it is the middle class that is providing all the wealth to the elites, it's just in the form of high unemployment (less employees to pay, same level of goods sold because by and large people still have to eat, breathe, drive and pay rent or a mortgage to live) coupled with low wages for those working results in record profit. Not QE.

The elites in this nation are playing with a stacked deck. And quite frankly, Terry, in response to the comment you made somewhere about "well what should I watch then?" the answer is not in what you watch to get your news, but how you personally process the news presented to you.

MSNBC people like Maddow, Shultz and most notable Sharpton definitely present their viewpoints from the liberal perspective. But behind the perspective (Al Sharpton excluded) and their reasoning (Al Sharpton excluded) are solid, factual analysis, not emotional appeals and ad hominem attacks. It's called truth, and make of it what you will, but Fox is renowned for getting the facts twisted and making emotional appeals based on fear rather than reasoning and fact.

Just see "Death Panels" and "Government Takeover of Health Care" for a start, because neither are true but both are designed to strike fear into the least fortunate (Death Panels) or most wealthy in our nation (Govt Takeover or ___________ Fill in the blank here).

I suggest you do some serious study on how to construct an argument, what is considered to be fact based reasoning versus fallacy, and then review your news sources with a new found ability to see through the BS. Because its always obvious when you start spouting off about "Muslims, Commies, Socialists" that you don't really have the ability to analyze what you have been told with a critical lens that would filter through the misinformation and disinformation you are being presented that "sounds right" but really is way off the mark.

I think you are smart enough to grasp the concepts of good, analytical reasoning and argument construction and how to spot fallacies. You just haven't taken the time to really gain that knowledge yet. And if you did, I think it would open your eyes to a lot of the lies you believe are true, and make you rethink who you trust for their opinion. You would see a lot of the right wingers sell a lot based on bias, prejudice and fear, all of which run counter to good solid reasoning.

[LITE-INN]

Read this. It explains how you are misguided on the "printing money" and "creating wealth for the wealthy" coming from quantitative easing.http://business.time.com/2013/09/18/...tative-easing/Then there is a link to this article here:http://www.businessinsider.com/corpo...ime-low-2012-6that explains that in part, you are correct, it is the middle class that is providing all the wealth to the elites, it's just in the form of high unemployment (less employees to pay, same level of goods sold because by and large people still have to eat, breathe, drive and pay rent or a mortgage to live) coupled with low wages for those working results in record profit. Not QE.The elites in this nation are playing with a stacked deck. And quite frankly, Terry, in response to the comment you made somewhere about "well what should I watch then?" the answer is not in what you watch to get your news, but how you personally process the news presented to you. MSNBC people like Maddow, Shultz and most notable Sharpton definitely present their viewpoints from the liberal perspective. But behind the perspective (Al Sharpton excluded) and their reasoning (Al Sharpton excluded) are solid, factual analysis, not emotional appeals and ad hominem attacks. It's called truth, and make of it what you will, but Fox is renowned for getting the facts twisted and making emotional appeals based on fear rather than reasoning and fact. Just see "Death Panels" and "Government Takeover of Health Care" for a start, because neither are true but both are designed to strike fear into the least fortunate (Death Panels) or most wealthy in our nation (Govt Takeover or ___________ Fill in the blank here).I suggest you do some serious study on how to construct an argument, what is considered to be fact based reasoning versus fallacy, and then review your news sources with a new found ability to see through the BS. Because its always obvious when you start spouting off about "Muslims, Commies, Socialists" that you don't really have the ability to analyze what you have been told with a critical lens that would filter through the misinformation and disinformation you are being presented that "sounds right" but really is way off the mark.I think you are smart enough to grasp the concepts of good, analytical reasoning and argument construction and how to spot fallacies. You just haven't taken the time to really gain that knowledge yet. And if you did, I think it would open your eyes to a lot of the lies you believe are true, and make you rethink who you trust for their opinion. You would see a lot of the right wingers sell a lot based on bias, prejudice and fear, all of which run counter to good solid reasoning.

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2012...e-testimonies/http://m.healthcarefinancenews.com/b...-care-underway

[Clayton_Wetter]

Read this. It explains how you are misguided on the "printing money" and "creating wealth for the wealthy" coming from quantitative easing.

http://business.time.com/2013/09/18/taper-tantrums-3-myths-about-quantitative-easing/

Then there is a link to this article here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/corporate-profits-just-hit-an-all-time-high-wages-just-hit-an-all-time-low-2012-6

that explains that in part, you are correct, it is the middle class that is providing all the wealth to the elites, it's just in the form of high unemployment (less employees to pay, same level of goods sold because by and large people still have to eat, breathe, drive and pay rent or a mortgage to live) coupled with low wages for those working results in record profit. Not QE.

The elites in this nation are playing with a stacked deck. And quite frankly, Terry, in response to the comment you made somewhere about "well what should I watch then?" the answer is not in what you watch to get your news, but how you personally process the news presented to you.

MSNBC people like Maddow, Shultz and most notable Sharpton definitely present their viewpoints from the liberal perspective. But behind the perspective (Al Sharpton excluded) and their reasoning (Al Sharpton excluded) are solid, factual analysis, not emotional appeals and ad hominem attacks. It's called truth, and make of it what you will, but Fox is renowned for getting the facts twisted and making emotional appeals based on fear rather than reasoning and fact.

Just see "Death Panels" and "Government Takeover of Health Care" for a start, because neither are true but both are designed to strike fear into the least fortunate (Death Panels) or most wealthy in our nation (Govt Takeover or ___________ Fill in the blank here).

I suggest you do some serious study on how to construct an argument, what is considered to be fact based reasoning versus fallacy, and then review your news sources with a new found ability to see through the BS. Because its always obvious when you start spouting off about "Muslims, Commies, Socialists" that you don't really have the ability to analyze what you have been told with a critical lens that would filter through the misinformation and disinformation you are being presented that "sounds right" but really is way off the mark.

I think you are smart enough to grasp the concepts of good, analytical reasoning and argument construction and how to spot fallacies. You just haven't taken the time to really gain that knowledge yet. And if you did, I think it would open your eyes to a lot of the lies you believe are true, and make you rethink who you trust for their opinion. You would see a lot of the right wingers sell a lot based on bias, prejudice and fear, all of which run counter to good solid reasoning.

So the tea Party constitutionists, church going conservatives, and true partiots of this nation are the Commies and Communist revolutionaries of the left that call themselves Progressives are the true saviors of the nation? I salute you with the right arm raised high.

I have lost any doubt that you believe in the Marxist cause. The shoe fits now wear it!

[Clayton_Wetter]

Read this. It explains how you are misguided on the "printing money" and "creating wealth for the wealthy" coming from quantitative easing.

http://business.time.com/2013/09/18/taper-tantrums-3-myths-about-quantitative-easing/

Then there is a link to this article here:

http://www.businessinsider.com/corporate-profits-just-hit-an-all-time-high-wages-just-hit-an-all-time-low-2012-6

that explains that in part, you are correct, it is the middle class that is providing all the wealth to the elites, it's just in the form of high unemployment (less employees to pay, same level of goods sold because by and large people still have to eat, breathe, drive and pay rent or a mortgage to live) coupled with low wages for those working results in record profit. Not QE.

The elites in this nation are playing with a stacked deck. And quite frankly, Terry, in response to the comment you made somewhere about "well what should I watch then?" the answer is not in what you watch to get your news, but how you personally process the news presented to you.

MSNBC people like Maddow, Shultz and most notable Sharpton definitely present their viewpoints from the liberal perspective. But behind the perspective (Al Sharpton excluded) and their reasoning (Al Sharpton excluded) are solid, factual analysis, not emotional appeals and ad hominem attacks. It's called truth, and make of it what you will, but Fox is renowned for getting the facts twisted and making emotional appeals based on fear rather than reasoning and fact.

Just see "Death Panels" and "Government Takeover of Health Care" for a start, because neither are true but both are designed to strike fear into the least fortunate (Death Panels) or most wealthy in our nation (Govt Takeover or ___________ Fill in the blank here).

I suggest you do some serious study on how to construct an argument, what is considered to be fact based reasoning versus fallacy, and then review your news sources with a new found ability to see through the BS. Because its always obvious when you start spouting off about "Muslims, Commies, Socialists" that you don't really have the ability to analyze what you have been told with a critical lens that would filter through the misinformation and disinformation you are being presented that "sounds right" but really is way off the mark.

I think you are smart enough to grasp the concepts of good, analytical reasoning and argument construction and how to spot fallacies. You just haven't taken the time to really gain that knowledge yet. And if you did, I think it would open your eyes to a lot of the lies you believe are true, and make you rethink who you trust for their opinion. You would see a lot of the right wingers sell a lot based on bias, prejudice and fear, all of which run counter to good solid reasoning.

Why Progressivism is Evil




The
pursuit to bend our will to conform to another man’s will has been
going on since the beginning, Progressivism is just one of its current
forms. What ever form it takes behind the smoke screen is always just
another attempt by those trying to enslave us to be God instead of know
God. Thats how you know there is an evil force that exist because
regardless of front that is put up what is behind it is always the same
and the people that are part of this force are hitching their wagon in
this country to the Progressive movement because the evil forces behind
it gives them a vehicle to act out their hatred and vengeance. This
evil force is only too willing to give them that opportunity because
they then become an agent who will drag down more souls in to hell.


The whole design of this conflict has been setup by the devil
between God’s people, those who are lovers of freedom and the devils
people those who want to enslave us is to get us to react. As the
Progressives gain more and more control over our lives by fooling us to
conform to their will they will by doing this separate us from God’s
will and we will become more and more a victim of their God, the devil.
This is all done by getting us to react with hatred ourselves toward
them. Once they have done that they have separated you from God and you
have become an agent of the devil. Then game over the devil wins but
really the game is not over till you are dead. Until then you still
have time to redeem yourself by realizing what you have become and
offer yourself to God. God never turns away a sincere repenter, God
never turns away anyone you deny him, he actually never denies you.


As God revealed to me 40 years ago, “You become what you hate” so it
is vital that you never react to the left, you must fight back but
never react with hate or they will win and we will loose our country.

Written by Patriot.

[kidrock]

Is anyone out there shaking in their boots because these idiots in Washington are threatening to shut down the Government. Have we not been down this road with these morons. This has become a joke with these dip (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)z. They sound like a bunch of kids fighting on the play ground. They think we are all so scared if they only knew. Most have figured out they want to posture but, they sure as hell don't want to stand their ground and take the responsibility no matter how it turns out and that goes for both sides. Oh Oh please shut the damm government down.