Chris Christie 2016

[kidrock]

Chris Christie as of right now will get my vote in 2016. He will not take any bs from either side.

[mudslinger47]

Of course he would, he's a RINO....

[kidrock]

What are you afraid of that he might ruffle a few feathers and get things done.

[mudslinger47]

Kid, he's an Eastern Republican, he is the apitomy of whats wrong with the Republican party....

[dirtisforracin]

He thinks that goverment can slove problems. We are going to spend trillions on fix NJ from superstorm sandy and he is for that. How is that fair to a taxpayors in states that dont recieve FEMA money. Why is its the national goverments responsiblity to fix the problem. I like him, but as a true conservative, he will not get my vote.

[t.nie]

I wouldn't vote for him. He is way too confrontational and abusive to people when he disagrees with them. I've seen clips of him laying into reporters asking him perfectly valid question. I think he's great for New Jersey, but that's where it ends. He has neither the temperament nor aptitude to lead the entire nation.

[t.nie]

He thinks that goverment can slove problems. We are going to spend trillions on fix NJ from superstorm sandy and he is for that. How is that fair to a taxpayors in states that dont recieve FEMA money. Why is its the national goverments responsiblity to fix the problem. I like him, but as a true conservative, he will not get my vote.

So your complaint is not that FEMA dishes out money, but that YOUR state is not getting any?

Have a tornado, or a hurricane or an earthquake devastate your part of the world, you'll get your FEMA money then.

I guess Conservative means "gettin' mine" to you. Or better still, Government shouldn't do ANYTHING for ANYONE, EVER.

[CIRF]

Christie may or may not be electable on the national level. He's going to have to get through the primary and that may be an insurmountable task for him. He's said and done some things that might make the primary a problem.

That said, he's perfectly capable of running the country. His intellect and management skills are on a par or above any one of the past 4 chief executives including the present one.

As far as Christie's demeanor with the media and others, as long a he doesn't get personal and has his facts straight he'll be just fine. He's definitely no more thin skinned than the present occupant on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Just to shift gears a bit, whoever runs against hillary clinton had better be willing to take the gloves off and get right down in the mud, muck and mire and wallow around with her. But, there might be a price to be paid for those tactics. Rick Lazio found that out in the New York Senatorial race. Part of the problem with running against clinton is going to be that stigma that goes along with playing rough with a female. Not enough people, even in this day and age, are OK with getting rough and tumble with a female and she'll exploit that situation to the limit and beyond.

Her opponent is going to have to be willing to explicitly and repeatedly point out, among many other things, that she stayed married to a rapist and serial adulterer for no other reason but to further her political ambitions along with her way less than stellar record as as U.S. Senator and Secretary of State.

Given all that I'm still not sure anyone can beat her. The Santa Claus syndrome may be way too entrenched into our voting demographic already.

[skids]

So your complaint is not that FEMA dishes out money, but that YOUR state is not getting any?

Have a tornado, or a hurricane or an earthquake devastate your part of the world, you'll get your FEMA money then.

I guess Conservative means "gettin' mine" to you. Or better still, Government shouldn't do ANYTHING for ANYONE, EVER.

Found this piece on the purpose of the government. Note what it says about being designed for a MORAL people. I believe this is the biggest reason this country has gone to hell. The further we (as a country) have drifted from God, the worse shape the country has gotten.



Free Republic

The Only Legitimate Purpose of Government
Set Our Children Free ^ | 10/20/12 | Tony Caruso
Posted on October 21, 2012 at 2:17:40 PM CDT by Guido2012

The only legitimate purpose of government is to secure the rights that you already have as a free-willed creation of God. For over 200 years, we have forgotten what the Founders wrote about the purpose of government in the Declaration of Independence. Its purpose is not to control us and keep our elected officials in power, although that is exactly what it has become in practice. The purpose of government should always be to secure our rights! Government is not to be an agent of control over our lives. Instead, government is to be a defender of our rights- a defender of the way of life we have chosen for ourselves, and to assure that nobody interferes with it.



“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed” - Declaration of Independence, 1776
According the Declaration of Independence, the primary, legitimate purpose of government is to secure our rights. That begs the question: What is a right? The Democrats tell us that rights are things like abortion, a guaranteed job, or a free cell phone, but that’s impossible since the government doesn’t give out rights, it dispenses goodies. A right is something you deserve merely by being a unique creation of God (See Declaration of Independence above). It is part and parcel of your humanity. In other words, if you are breathing air and have a pulse, you have rights – human rights or natural rights as they are sometimes called. Recognition of these human rights is a recognition of our unique and special status in a world of created creatures. The one thing that separates many conservatives from atheists and leftists, philosophically, is this recognition. Atheists and leftists don’t recognize mankind’s unique place in God’s creation, and therefore reject any notion that mankind is superior to any other plant or animal. This is why they see no contradiction in laws that protect endangered plant and animal species, yet allow killing of unborn humans. Conservatives, on the other hand, recognize that mankind was created to have dominion over all other creatures, and that his natural state is freedom. For much of history, however, freedom has been the exception, not the rule. Apart from America’s 200+ years of history, there are few examples where mankind has been free to enjoy his natural God-given rights, unbridled from despotism, dictatorship, and tyranny.

We are a self-governing nation. That is “we the people” govern ourselves through the system of government the Founders gave us. That’s the good news. The bad news? According to John Adams, our Constitution was made for a moral people, and won’t work for any other kind. Benjamin Franklin said, “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” When “we the people” becomes “we the immoral,”then we get the intrusive government we deserve because we don’t have the self-discipline to restrain ourselves from bad behavior. We get Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Janet Napolitano, and Kathleen Sebelius running our lives. They spy on us, they monitor everything we do and say, they search us without our permission when we travel, they tell us how much of our money we can keep, they tell us how to raise our children and what they will learn, they tell us what we can eat, they determine the quality of health care we have, and they mandate how we run our businesses. The Declaration states that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.

How did we consent to give them this much control over our lives? Part of the answer is in Ben Franklin’s quote above. We are so corrupt, we have need of masters, and unfortunately the masters we have chosen are more corrupt than we are. The other answer is that we have ignored why we are supposed to have government in the first place. For over 200 years, we have forgotten what the Founders wrote about the purpose of government in the Declaration of Independence. Its purpose is not to control us and keep our elected officials in power, although that is exactly what it has become in practice. The purpose of government should always be to secure our rights! Government is not to be an agent of control over our lives. Instead, government is to be a defender of our rights- a defender of the way of life we have chosen for ourselves, and to assure that nobody interferes with it. In order to do this, the government, by definition of its purpose, must exercise as little interference as possible with its citizens. Instead, it must protect us from others who would interfere with the exercise of our rights. Read that loud and clear. The only legitimate purpose of government is to secure the rights that you already have as a free-willed creation of God. All other purposes of government are illegitimate! If we want to be free, we must repent and return to the only legitimate purpose of government, to the exclusion of all other duties we have asked it to perform. We have no choice but to pursue this course, because abandoning this choice leaves us $16 trillion in debt with no future, devoid of a moral compass, and tyranny on the doorstep.

[LITE-INN]

So your complaint is not that FEMA dishes out money, but that YOUR state is not getting any? oops missed thatone didn't you

[Clayton_Wetter]

Found this piece on the purpose of the government. Note what it says about being designed for a MORAL people. I believe this is the biggest reason this country has gone to hell. The further we (as a country) have drifted from God, the worse shape the country has gotten.



Free Republic

The Only Legitimate Purpose of Government
Set Our Children Free ^ | 10/20/12 | Tony Caruso
Posted on October 21, 2012 at 2:17:40 PM CDT by Guido2012

The only legitimate purpose of government is to secure the rights that you already have as a free-willed creation of God. For over 200 years, we have forgotten what the Founders wrote about the purpose of government in the Declaration of Independence. Its purpose is not to control us and keep our elected officials in power, although that is exactly what it has become in practice. The purpose of government should always be to secure our rights! Government is not to be an agent of control over our lives. Instead, government is to be a defender of our rights- a defender of the way of life we have chosen for ourselves, and to assure that nobody interferes with it.



“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed” - Declaration of Independence, 1776
According the Declaration of Independence, the primary, legitimate purpose of government is to secure our rights. That begs the question: What is a right? The Democrats tell us that rights are things like abortion, a guaranteed job, or a free cell phone, but that’s impossible since the government doesn’t give out rights, it dispenses goodies. A right is something you deserve merely by being a unique creation of God (See Declaration of Independence above). It is part and parcel of your humanity. In other words, if you are breathing air and have a pulse, you have rights – human rights or natural rights as they are sometimes called. Recognition of these human rights is a recognition of our unique and special status in a world of created creatures. The one thing that separates many conservatives from atheists and leftists, philosophically, is this recognition. Atheists and leftists don’t recognize mankind’s unique place in God’s creation, and therefore reject any notion that mankind is superior to any other plant or animal. This is why they see no contradiction in laws that protect endangered plant and animal species, yet allow killing of unborn humans. Conservatives, on the other hand, recognize that mankind was created to have dominion over all other creatures, and that his natural state is freedom. For much of history, however, freedom has been the exception, not the rule. Apart from America’s 200+ years of history, there are few examples where mankind has been free to enjoy his natural God-given rights, unbridled from despotism, dictatorship, and tyranny.

We are a self-governing nation. That is “we the people” govern ourselves through the system of government the Founders gave us. That’s the good news. The bad news? According to John Adams, our Constitution was made for a moral people, and won’t work for any other kind. Benjamin Franklin said, “Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.” When “we the people” becomes “we the immoral,”then we get the intrusive government we deserve because we don’t have the self-discipline to restrain ourselves from bad behavior. We get Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Barney Frank, Janet Napolitano, and Kathleen Sebelius running our lives. They spy on us, they monitor everything we do and say, they search us without our permission when we travel, they tell us how much of our money we can keep, they tell us how to raise our children and what they will learn, they tell us what we can eat, they determine the quality of health care we have, and they mandate how we run our businesses. The Declaration states that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed.

How did we consent to give them this much control over our lives? Part of the answer is in Ben Franklin’s quote above. We are so corrupt, we have need of masters, and unfortunately the masters we have chosen are more corrupt than we are. The other answer is that we have ignored why we are supposed to have government in the first place. For over 200 years, we have forgotten what the Founders wrote about the purpose of government in the Declaration of Independence. Its purpose is not to control us and keep our elected officials in power, although that is exactly what it has become in practice. The purpose of government should always be to secure our rights! Government is not to be an agent of control over our lives. Instead, government is to be a defender of our rights- a defender of the way of life we have chosen for ourselves, and to assure that nobody interferes with it. In order to do this, the government, by definition of its purpose, must exercise as little interference as possible with its citizens. Instead, it must protect us from others who would interfere with the exercise of our rights. Read that loud and clear. The only legitimate purpose of government is to secure the rights that you already have as a free-willed creation of God. All other purposes of government are illegitimate! If we want to be free, we must repent and return to the only legitimate purpose of government, to the exclusion of all other duties we have asked it to perform. We have no choice but to pursue this course, because abandoning this choice leaves us $16 trillion in debt with no future, devoid of a moral compass, and tyranny on the doorstep.

This post trumps all the side shows on this thread!!! Thank you!

[LITE-INN]

how is going side show

[dirtisforracin]

I'm saying its not the goverments FEMA responsiblity to pay for those repairs with those natural disasters. Period. Where in Constitution does it state that is payed for? The more the people rely on goverment, the more they will be let down. Anyone see how much of NJ and NY are still waiting for goverment assistance related to Sandy. Of course if Bush were still in office, the news would be all over him, but its like homeless and hungry during holidays. The media only covers it when a republican is in office. There are no homeless and hungry during the great one terms.

[DirtRacer2014]

I'm saying its not the goverments FEMA responsiblity to pay for those repairs with those natural disasters. Period. Where in Constitution does it state that is payed for? The more the people rely on goverment, the more they will be let down. Anyone see how much of NJ and NY are still waiting for goverment assistance related to Sandy. Of course if Bush were still in office, the news would be all over him, but its like homeless and hungry during holidays. The media only covers it when a republican is in office. There are no homeless and hungry during the great one terms.

Now here is a poster who can see the tree,s through the forest! great post

[mudslinger47]

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Ed Zackery!!!! the Tnei's of the world with their hand constantly out.....you got a problem, you gotta fix it, its not the gubmints job to bail your butt out because life got a little tough....