Fema a flipping joke
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we need to throw illegals in jailOriginally posted by bubstr View Posttrue colors coming out. You are bot a fiscal conservative, but a bleeding heart liberal. We ignore the poor black people in the rest of africa who are getting killed. What makes these people anymore special. By the way, if we could get someone to pay our defense bill like we do for them, we could build your border wall. It wouldn't be as effective as throwing business owners in jail for hiring them. It seems you conveniently forget we are broke except when it comes to entitlements. Seems to be a republican trait.
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I'm sure glad ole bubstr and tnie are so flippin smart, I don't know what I'd do without those clowns on here...well at least they impress each other....
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t.nie, your interpretation is different from mine. I wonder how as a country we survived without you liberal progressives ideas. NO social security, no welfare, no medicare or medicaid, no food stamps. NO Fema, No EPA, NO Dept of education. We as country have only had these programs for last 60-70 yrs
"insuring domestic tranquility" to me is simple peace for its people. Got no problem with national guard troops assisting and adding security. General welfare, I dont believe is aid. You see if I have a house on the beach, I should have enough Home owners insurance to cover my home. Insurance companies have some blame, as they should have high premiums to cover home, but then some in those homes could not afford to live or build on beach. Its the risk they take. Why would insurance companies pay folks, when they know the goverment will step in a give money to rebult?
You simply believe the federal goverment should provide. I simply believe the goverment should be limited.
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I see. Your interpretation is "it's every man for himself" unless Russia bombs Florida?Originally posted by dirtisforracin View Postt.nie, your interpretation is different from mine. I wonder how as a country we survived without you liberal progressives ideas. NO social security, no welfare, no medicare or medicaid, no food stamps. NO Fema, No EPA, NO Dept of education. We as country have only had these programs for last 60-70 yrs
"insuring domestic tranquility" to me is simple peace for its people. Got no problem with national guard troops assisting and adding security. General welfare, I dont believe is aid. You see if I have a house on the beach, I should have enough Home owners insurance to cover my home. Insurance companies have some blame, as they should have high premiums to cover home, but then some in those homes could not afford to live or build on beach. Its the risk they take. Why would insurance companies pay folks, when they know the goverment will step in a give money to rebult?
You simply believe the federal goverment should provide. I simply believe the goverment should be limited.
Want a road in your community, get your neighbors together and have a road building party. Want education for your kids, round up the neighbors and build a school, everyone kick some money in for a teacher. Or better still, see if you can take turns teaching the classes.... or don't have classes at all, let everyone "home school" their kids between shifts at work. Sure, we will have the best educated kids in the world then, just teach them at home. I'm sure you can handle algebra, and if you can't who cares? Your kid didn't want a better job anyway.
Cops? Who needs em. Just pass more gun laws and CCW in every state. We can police our own communities, arrest and try anyone we think broke a law. Don't need no judicial system anyway. We can settle it like men, the good old fashioned way with some punches or a shooting to settle the matter.
Tornado roll through? Let insurance companies pay, and then the citizens can get together and rebuild the electrical grid, the sewer and water systems, the schoo... wait, we home school, so there are no schools...the roads, etc. Don't need no government meddling with that. We'll have a bake sale and take donations at the community center (once it's rebuilt, of course....)
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T.nie you are out there. you did not answer my questions either. I never said no goverment. Actually the goverment is to protect us foriegn and domestic threats. You ask me, so I will tell you where I stand. School should be local decision, with no federal interference. Was up untill 1979 and Dept of education was created.
If federal mandates, why even bother with local school boards? Local folks and parents should be making decisions on their childrens education, not some idiots in DC (republicans and democrats). Do you think the the educations system is doing great, maybe you should see where we rank in the world in education?
Roads should be state run. Why else pay all tolls, and gas taxes state and federal. BTW if the money was used only for roads and bridges, repairs and fixing up, etc.tThe goverment should have plenty of money for repairs and such, if they did not use money elsewhere.
Utilies companies should repair and rebuild their systems, they own it. They charge us(Money) a fee for their services. Dont they? I dont pay the goverment for my electric, water, and natural gas. Do you? I know I pay a tax on my utilities? For what do I pay those taxes?
Police and firemen should be a local decision. I pay a fire tax and local, state taxes where I live got no problem with it. Its services a like to have and pay for. Where does the federal goverment come in to play with local and state police? I pay federal taxes to pay the military for protection. Got no problem with that. neighborhood watch, is used. You can make a citizens arrest as well. We pay for judges and judicial system with our taxes. No problem with that.
I gots lots of problems with EPA, Dept of education, Fema, the food stamps program.. How can a willing and able young adult of say 22 get food stamps. Get a job, not a handout. I want to lend a hand up, not give a hand out. I will teach a man to fish, not give a man a fish. Iwill help the helpless, and disabled, elderly's and children, cause they cant help themselves. Where is ones self responsiblity?Last edited by dirtisforracin; 11-14-2013, 10:18 AM.
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they can get home on their own they are not citizens of the us a so why should give a care try crossing crossing the canad border or mexican border like they did and see how far you getOriginally posted by Bubstr View PostThat makes sense, Not! They come here illegally because they don't have food and lodging. With your proposal, we would give it to them. Are you willing to pay their keep? Your pretty free with other peoples money.
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Well, I'm sure glad they don't come here to traffic drugs and disobey common laws!!! And the human trafficking too!!! What about that stretch of borderland the US citizens are now warned too stay out of? I majority of these people are uneducated and aware that there is nothing to stop them from entering the country to do whatever they please. Meanwhile literally thousands of DHS vehicles painted white are sitting under tarps and not being used at all.Originally posted by Bubstr View PostThat makes sense, Not! They come here illegally because they don't have food and lodging. With your proposal, we would give it to them. Are you willing to pay their keep? Your pretty free with other peoples money.
They should be subject to federal laws already in place, rounded up and detained and then driven back to Vagrantville, Mex. and dumped off.Last edited by Clayton_Wetter; 11-14-2013, 04:40 PM.
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I still can't understand why liberas don't get the "illegal" part in front of alien .....how the heck stupid do you have to be to miss that?
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Originally posted by mudslinger47 View PostI still can't understand why liberas don't get the "illegal" part in front of alien .....how the heck stupid do you have to be to miss that?
What would your plan be to solve this problem? Now I mean a solvable plan not just gather them up and bus them back because you know as well as I do that won't work.
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No goverment aide would be a starts. Huge fines for business that hire illegal's. Anyone that commits a crime are sent back, no questions ask. Its strike two as it was a crime coming to america in first place. NO safe cites anymore for illegals. I would militarize the boarder. Those are a start. If they have no job, goverment welfare or assistance, its just possible, the go back to mexico. How many law abiding green card holders are in american awaiting citizenship? Wonder what would happen if you or I went to mexico illegally? Think the mexican gov. would help us?
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