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  • Clayton_Wetter
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 16671

    #46
    So our 4M Psycho-philosopher, ^^^^^^^ has concluded that cutting government spending won't help and increasing the spending will be better in the long run?

    In fact it is just yet another CONSPIRACY THEORIE, just like the Progressive Communists taking control of our government and installing a totalitarian government?

    American citizens: Government is NOT your friend!


    By Madeline Crabb

    We the People, citizens of the United States of America, are relinquishing increasing amounts of control over our lives to the Federal Government, and doing so at an alarming pace. In most cases, this is happening by force. But as we have seen over the past few decades, citizens have willingly given up rights because of assurances from government that doing so was for our own good, the common good for all people, or for our own safety. In other words, government leaders have done or said whatever is necessary for citizens to submit to their schemes and plans. Like a bunch of sheep being led to the slaughter, we have acquiesced. But as growing numbers of Americans are finally realizing, the relinquishing of control over our lives to the Federal Government is not in our best interests. We are discovering the truth that Government is NOT our friend.

    A recent Fox News poll reported that 73 percent of Americans are dissatisfied with the direction our government is going. Reporting in mid- October, the Pew Research Center said that just 19 percent say they trust the government in Washington to do what is right just about always or most of the time, while a mere 12 percent say they are basically content with the federal government. Uh, that means 88 percent of American citizens are not content with our federal government. Are We the People finally waking up?

    Perhaps the recent government slowdown opened the public's eyes to some of the shenanigans of our government. It was absolutely absurd how our president behaved. And then we have the contempt with which high-ranking congressional members spoke of the American people, those whom they are supposed to serve, i.e. work for. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called American citizens a variety of names before and during the slowdown, including: "rabid, anarchists, willful, extreme, guerilla," and as having a "Banana-Republic mindset." To the Republican leadership who were doing the job We the People asked them to do, Reid said they were "kidnappers and hostage-takers," among other things. During the same slowdown, it was the House that was passing laws to do the bidding of Americans, and to re-open the government. It was Obama and the Senate that blocked all bills, and thus led to the 16-day slowdown.

    What we have been seeing with increasing frequency, particularly over nearly the past five years is a huge Monopoly game being played by our government. Just as in the board game, the most skilled player, and who holds the most money, wins the game. In this case, it is the government with all the money they have confiscated from taxpayers. But to insure they "win the game" of control/monopolization over We the People, government borrows, (or prints from thin air) 46 cents for every spent dollar, according to the Washington Times reporting in December 2012. The other "players" in this gigantic board game don't have the capability of printing their own money or borrowing from foreign governments. Therefore, it's sort of a "rigged game" against We the People. And it is getting worse, not just on the monetary level.

    As of October 1, 2013, we began to relinquish ALL private information about our lives to a group of non-elected, non-accountable people in the Internal Revenue Service because of the Affordable Care Act – Obamacare. Because of this one unconstitutional law, the Executive Branch of our federal government will now have access to every kind of private information about our health – even concerning our sexual lives. Furthermore, despite making fun of Sarah Palin for talking about death panels, we have relinquished ultimate control over our very lives through the same abominable law. In the future, our government, not ourselves or our family members, will have the final say about whether or not we will receive necessary health care. Yes, there will be panels of strangers sitting in government offices – funded by American taxpayers – deciding if we are too old, too young, worthy or unworthy, of receiving various medicines or procedures. If we don't fit "their" criteria for whatever reason, we will receive a death penalty "sentence" from our government. Yes, it IS in the thousands of pages constituting this law. As Palin might say, "you betcha there's a death panel," a panel that awaits the day it can exercise its tremendous power over us. Of course, it will only do so in order to keep down costs, and to make sure everyone has healthcare." Uh huh...

    Nowhere in the U.S. Constitution is it written that the Federal Government can force Americans to buy any products they don't want or need. Of course, Supreme Court Chief Justice had three theories presented by the Obama Administration,from which to choose regarding the ACA. He chose to rule on the one ensuring government control over the people the Constitution is supposed to protect, thus making Obamacare a tax. Like the rest of our country's federal tax abomination, Obamacare is also a convoluted mess.

    Of course, not everybody will have to pay this "tax." Oh no...Everyone will be forced to purchase health insurance whether or not they want or need it. But these people will then receive government subsidies, or partial/full payment of their premiums from government. However, since the government has no money of its own, it will force taxpayers to pay not just for their own Obama-approved health insurance, they will have to pay the subsidies as well. What a deal! – for those receiving this subsidy. Of course, there are all those other subsidies American taxpayers have to pay for as well – food stamps, government housing, "free" Obamaphones – you get the picture.

    There is still the question about whether Congress and other government employees will be placed on Obamacare. Yes, we pay for a sizeable portion of healthcare benefits for Congress, the President and his family and Cabinet members, congressional members, and untold numbers of congressional and/or other government employees. Would Obamacare cost us less in paying for these people? Doubtful. Nothing the government is involved in ever costs less than similar services rendered from private industry.

    The point is that the number of people actually working and paying taxes is decreasing, which means the burden on that group of responsible citizens is becoming a crushing one. And for your information, the average American salary is $51,000. Congressmen earn $174,000, or 3.4 times the average American salary, reports the Daily Caller. But then, members of Congress get additional compensation adjusting their salaries to $285,000. Question: Why are American taxpayers expected to pay any portion of health care premiums for these people – Obamacare version or not? Oh, and you will love this one...

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    • Clayton_Wetter
      Banned
      • May 2007
      • 16671

      #47
      Part Two:

      Yesterday, Rep. Mike Doyle, D-PA, was eager to report before a congressional hearing on Obamacare with Czarina Sebellious that he thinks the ACA will save him money by subsidizing an insurance policy for his 33-year-old son. Yes, Obamacare already forces parents to pay for their "children" up to the age of 26. (Seriously.) But the Doyle family has apparently voluntarily supported this son past the mandatory age. Now, American taxpayers will have to partially support him, even though his daddy, a U.S. Congressman makes a minimum of $174,000 a year. Is anybody seeing red yet?

      While there are millions upon millions of Americans who unfortunately think government should "take care of them," or that America "owes them something," people who actually take personal responsibility for their own lives and work one or more jobs to accomplish this, are forced to relinquish increasing amounts of their paychecks to the government. Socialist Obama and all his cronies do everything in their power to create even more freebies to give-away in their quest to make life "fair" for all. But again, it isn't their money used in these benevolent plans. It is OURS! And I don't know about you, but I'm getting sick and tired of it.

      If we don't start taking back our government, insisting that our "public servants" start obeying the Constitution, and preparing/living on a budget, instead of spending and borrowing future generations of Americans into oblivion, well then, maybe we deserve what we get. And that "what" is full-blown Communism. We must open our eyes and understand that everything government does is to gain more power over us. Obama is deliberately bankrupting our country. He is a Communist who believes in total government control, government ownership. Citizens then work for, and are at the mercy of the government for all their needs. Of course, like in all previous Socialist/Communist regimes, there is a group that lives "high on the hog." Guess who comprises that group? That's right, government officials and their cronies. Are you getting the picture yet, fellow American?

      Obamacare is the final straw that will break the proverbial camel's back – America's back. Taxpayers can't afford it. I don't have to go through all the figures in this article. There are tons of facts on the Web regarding how much it will cost. There are tons of facts about what it's costing individual Americans and businesses. What has it already cost you?

      And for those who think the U.S. Constitution doesn't mean that much anymore, then ask yourself what would happen to We the People if there were absolutely no boundaries on what the Federal Government could do to us. Really. No rules...Frightening.

      The government is NOT our friend. It is taxing, spending, and regulating us both individually, and as a nation, into oblivion. In his first inaugural address, Thomas Jefferson said, "A wise and frugal government...shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government." Our government has not been a good government, but an oppressive one doing great harm to We the People. As Mark Levin says, "We need to breathe life back into our heritage – or we are doomed." What are we waiting for? To anyone willing to hear....

      © Madeline Crabb

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      • Clayton_Wetter
        Banned
        • May 2007
        • 16671

        #48
        Tnie, you can cry conspiracy theory, stupid Teabaggers, and talk radio hosts are profiteers peddling snake oil all you want, but that does not change the facts that they are actually out there trying to save this nation. Mean while you on the other hand do nothing of the sort. In fact you just stand and watch the ship sink, while drilling holes in the bottom of it. Thanks a lot fellow American!!

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        • LITE-INN
          Banned
          • Feb 2008
          • 12473

          #49
          the opposite of what have right now http://inplainsight.nbcnews.com/_new...iled-miserably

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          • ss12
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 3730

            #50
            Someone who get what the real problem is.

            Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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            • mudeater18
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 1599

              #51
              Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
              Any dummy could see that, but it's impossible if you spend 40% less than you take in. It's just plain impossible. At best, you could slow the rate of debt growth and live miserable while you do it.
              So you're OK with living it up and passing that debt on to your children and grandchildren ? Don't you want them to have a shot at a successful life ?

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              • mudeater18
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1599

                #52
                Originally posted by t.nie View Post
                The moral of the story is you can't cut your way to prosperity long term.
                So you think you can spend your way out of debt ?

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                • LITE-INN
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 12473

                  #53

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                  • ss12
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 3730

                    #54
                    Haters don't really hate you, in fact they hate themselves because you are a reflection of what they wish to be.

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                    • LITE-INN
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 12473

                      #55
                      JAY: 'Cause you're sort of, I guess, somewhat unique. You're an intellectual and a soldier. There's only a few of those. thjis lost me here bye bye

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                      • racin6mod
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 2172

                        #56
                        investing in the future. like a farmer invest in the future when he takes out a loan to buy seed , fuel and possibly a tractor or planter. He is investing in the future yields he hopes to gain in the fall. The same is true with a factory owner he invest in steel , machines and hard wear every year he!! every day do they have the large amounts of money free no they have to loan the money from a creditor. most of the gov. come from bonds. investing in roads ,bridges,rail and anything transportation related is an investment in the future of the country. Spending has been cut and cut big we are just about at the level Ryan's plan called for. the only problem that remains is the top 5000 companies in the us have gained 68 percent in wealth thanks to the sweetheart deal they got thanks to Bush/chaney and the gop/tea party have fought so hard to keep in place while the real tax body that being you and I are only seeing at best a very small fraction of a gain as a group sense 2007. so in short we can't cover the sweet heart deal and get a head with out the top 5000 paying their fare share.
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                        • LITE-INN
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 12473

                          #57
                          hey dummy the tea party is not directly connected to GOP

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                          • LITE-INN
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 12473

                            #58
                            Preamble: The Tea Party Movement is an all-inclusive American grassroots movement with the belief that everyone is created equal and deserves an equal opportunity to thrive in these United States where they may “pursue life, liberty and happiness” as stated in the Declaration of Independence and guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. No one is excluded from participation in the Tea Party Movement. Everyone is welcomed to join in seeking to achieve the Tea Party Movement goals, which are as follows: 1. Eliminate Excessive Taxes - Excessively high taxes are a burden for those exercising their personal liberty to work hard and prosper as afforded by the Constitution. A fiscally responsible government protects the freedom of its citizens to enjoy the fruits of their own labor without interference from a government that has exceeded its necessary size, scope and reach into the lives of its citizens. “Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.” --Calvin Coolidge “A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.” --Thomas Jefferson “Any tax is a discouragement and therefore a regulation.” --Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. Also see: What is the Tea Party; Tea Party Ideas; Tea Partiers; Voice of the Tea Party 2. Eliminate the National Debt - By implementing fiscally conservative policies at all levels of government, progress can be made toward eliminating the U.S. National Debt. Massive increases in the National Debt have created and continue to create a huge burden for the next generation of Americans, thus imperiling the country’s short-term and long-term economic health and prosperity. “You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.” --Abraham Lincoln “If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” --Thomas Paine, 1776 “As on the one hand, the necessity for borrowing in particular emergencies cannot be doubted, so on the other, it is equally evident that to be able to borrow upon good terms, it is essential that the credit of a nation should be well established.” --Alexander Hamilton, 1790 Tea Party Platform continued: 3. Eliminate Deficit Spending - All deficit spending must be eliminated immediately. We insist that government representatives at all levels maintain a fiscally responsible budget and balance the books as would be expected of any American business. “Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness.” --George Washington “A penny saved is a penny earned.” --Benjamin Franklin “Tomorrow, every Fault is to be amended; but that Tomorrow never comes.” --Benjamin Franklin Tea Party Platform - Home of the Tea Party Movement Platform continued: 4. Protect Free Markets - America’s free enterprise system allows businesses to thrive as they compete in the open marketplace and strive toward ever better services and products. Allowing free markets to prosper unfettered by government interference is what propelled this country to greatness with an enduring belief in the industriousness and innovations of the populace. “That some achieve great success, is proof to all that others can achieve it as well.” --Abraham Lincoln “You cannot build character and courage by taking away a man’s initiative and independence.” --Abraham Lincoln “The government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.” --Ronald Reagan Tea Party Platform continued: 5. Abide by the Constitution of the United States - The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land and must be adhered to without exception at all levels of government. This includes the Bill of Rights and other Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and their provisions designed to protect states’ rights and individual liberties. “A general Dissolution of Principles & Manners will more surely overthrow the Liberties of America than the whole Force of the Common Enemy.” --Samuel Adams, 1779 “The Constitution is the guide which I will never abandon.” --George Washington “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” --Abraham Lincoln Tea Party Platform continued: 6. Promote Civic Responsibility - Citizen involvement at the grassroots level allows the voice of the American people to be heard and directs the political behaviors of our representatives at both the local and national level so they, in turn, may be most effective in working to preserve the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of this country’s citizens. “The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.” --Patrick Henry “To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men.” --Abraham Lincoln “Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light” --George Washington “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.” --Thomas Jefferson Tea Party Platform - Home of the Tea Party Movement Platform continued: 7. Reduce the Overall Size of Government - A bloated bureaucracy creates wasteful spending that plagues our government. Reducing the overall size, scope and reach of government at both local and national levels will help to eliminate inefficiencies that result in deficit spending which adds to our country’s debt. “My observation is that whenever one person is found adequate to the discharge of a duty...it is worse executed by two persons, and scarcely done at all if three or more are employed therein.” --George Washington “If we can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people, under the pretense of taking care of them, they must become happy.” --Samuel Adams, 1802 “Energy and persistence conquer all things.” --Benjamin Franklin Tea Party Platform continued: 8. Believe in the People - The American people, given their guaranteed freedoms, will thrive in a democratic, capitalist environment which allows individuals to strive toward ever greater achievements, innovations and the efficient production of needed and valued goods and services. “Industry need not wish.” --Benjamin Franklin “Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth.” --Abraham Lincoln “The people will save their government, if the government itself will allow them.” --Abraham Lincoln Tea Party Platform continued: 9. Avoid the Pitfalls of Politics - American politics is burdened by big money from lobbyists and special interests with an undue influence on the peoples’ representatives. The Tea Party movement is seen as a threat to the entrenched political parties and thus is the continual target of smear campaigns and misrepresentation of its ideals. We choose not to respond to these attacks except to strongly and explicitly disavow any and all hate speech, any and all violence as well as insinuations of violence, and any and all extreme and fringe elements that bring discredit to the Tea Party Movement. We are a peaceful movement and respect other's opinions and views even though they do not agree with our own. We stand by the Tea Party beliefs and goals and choose to focus our energies on ensuring that our government representatives do the same. “I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts.” --Abraham Lincoln “Honesty is the best policy.” --Benjamin Franklin “Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.” --George Washington Also see: What is the Tea Party; Tea Party Ideas; Tea Partiers; Voice of the Tea Party Tea Party Platform continued: 10. Maintain Local Independence - The strength and resilience of a grassroots movement is the ability of citizens at the local level to determine their own platforms, agendas and priorities free of an overriding central leadership. Exercising the clearly stated message of the Tea Party movement by its nature involves discourse about which policies and candidates best hold to our stated principles, and these various opinions should flourish and evolve at the local level. “Here sir, the people govern.” --Alexander Hamilton in a speech to the New York Ratifying Convention, 1788 “Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories.” --Samuel Adams, 1781 “This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it.” --Abraham Lincoln Tea Party Platform - Thank you for visiting the Tea Party Movement Platform Website
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                            • kidrock
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 16406

                              #59
                              Originally posted by LITE-INN View Post
                              hey dummy the tea party is not directly connected to GOP
                              Then why run under the GOP banner? why not run as a third party? Has any of them run as a Democrat?

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                              • Clayton_Wetter
                                Banned
                                • May 2007
                                • 16671

                                #60
                                Originally posted by kidrock View Post
                                Then why run under the GOP banner? why not run as a third party? Has any of them run as a Democrat?
                                The Communists run in the Democrat party, so why can't the TEA party run on the Republican side???

                                I sure would like to see the Communists form their own party instead of coopting one!

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