Job Creator Myth

[LITE-INN]

So, where did you get this from? You say you aren't influenced by the Koch Brothers propaganda....Really? This is straight from the Charles Koch foundation. Here's the link to the Koch foundation video you pulled your facts from. Now very slowly and carefully watch the Koch Foundation propaganda piece, then compare it to your words above. Then tell me you don't parrot propaganda.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpLfQvRmf2E#action=shareYeah. You don't get your opinions fed to you by the Koch propaganda machine. You're an "independent free thinker." Heck, those "dum azzes" at the Koch Foundation STOLE this idea from YOU!!!! LOL

you didn't see where the US IS FALLING DID YOU

[Bubstr]

And the point is, bird breath, if your taking from the pool of the world, the 1% out purchase the rest buy arguably 10 times....If your taking from a pool of America only not so much....I thought you'd be able to figure that out, but alas, I was wrong....

Well you where wrong. You still are wrong. It;s a simple ratio/proportion problem. No matter how many people you include, 1% is still 1%. If your talking 100 people it is one person that makes up 1%. If your talking a 1,000 people, 10 people make up 1%. The numbers make it extremely unlikely that 10 people will, not could, out buy 1,000.

As Nathan Johnston said in the movie, The Jerk, "Oh it's a numbers game?" How can you understand anything about Economics, if you can't understand simple math?

Just as a by the way thing, there are around a dozen people in this world, that no one really knows their earning or assets, because no one is powerful enough to get a audit. The US government can't even get a full audit of the FED. We really don't know who owns the FED. Every country, that has debt based currency, has some type of FED and FED owner. They make compound interest on every dollar, pound, frank, yen or Euro in existence. They are not taxed, they are not audited and for the most part, no one really knows who they are. If they where included in the 99/1 percent, it would really show how poor everyone else was.

Don't feel bad or angry. This is just one of those indefensible platforms that political parties have, and they all have them.

[Bubstr]

prices and wages are relative but the truth who is the job creaters ,small business where do you think Koch brothers get their customers

Good point Litey, but where do the small businesses get their buyer? I see a lot of strip malls with a lot of empty space. My son just worked a long term deal that triples his space, but he could not have done that with out a consumer.

[Bubstr]

Job creator thing is a myth. If a buisness NEEDS to create a position, it will. If they don't NEED to, they won't.

Well said and all that needs to be said.

[LITE-INN]

some time their buyer is the big companies its not just retail you know

[Bubstr]

tnie is all knowing also and if you don't buy their product they don't own you

Yes they do. They just buy the producer that you buy from. The only way you don't get owned is not to buy their BS.

[Bubstr]

some time their buyer is the big companies its not just retail you know

Your talking a distributor. This may aid you in your sales, but it is for resale and it creates no buyer.

[skids]

Why do some people think that attempting to make the rich man "poorer" will somehow make the poor man richer?????????? Tell me how that works?

[skids]

Bubstr,
I am curious if you subscribe to the theory of Pelosi and Obama that unemployment insurance (paying people not to work) creates jobs?

[LITE-INN]

Your talking a distributor. This may aid you in your sales, but it is for resale and it creates no buyer.

there are alot of b2b sales also

[LITE-INN]

Bubstr,I am curious if you subscribe to the theory of Pelosi and Obama that unemployment insurance (paying people not to work) creates jobs?

gotta think of something with the debacle they call obamacare

[t.nie]

Why do some people think that attempting to make the rich man "poorer" will somehow make the poor man richer?????????? Tell me how that works?

Why do some people continue to think that actually increasing the wealth of the wealthiest helps everyone equally?

What you are doing is simply framing this argument in a way that will persuade people to draw a conclusion that suits your way of thinking.

But you are completely misrepresenting the view of the other side. You are making a presumption about people not on the right--"they (the left) want to take money away from people so other people can have it for nothing." That is not true.

I could care less if people are stinking rich in this nation, as long as the roads are in great shape, schools are doing well, we lead the world in education and innovation, wages and benefits are such that all of our people WANT to work and work hard because it leads to a better life, and we all have an equal opportunity to pursue our goals, whatever those may be.

That is not asking our government to "make rich people poorer." That is simply asking our government to create a free market for jobs where work pays and pays well, and ensures good paying jobs are available to everyone willing to work. It's not too much to ask in the nation with the most profitable corporations in the world, the wealthiest people in the world, and the most prosperous economic history known to mankind. Is it?

[LITE-INN]

yes less regulationsget rid obummercare help the small business the rich will get even richer but so will everyone else

[t.nie]

Bubstr,
I am curious if you subscribe to the theory of Pelosi and Obama that unemployment insurance (paying people not to work) creates jobs?

Again, its the language and the way you frame your position that leaves a lot to be desired. You look at unemployment benefits as "paying people NOT to work."

I look at what happens to people when there are 300 applicants for every job. What happens when there is no more assistance? They don't have any money to buy the basics with, so that cash flow in the economy gets removed. When that cash flow gets removed, people who DO have jobs now have less money being spent on the basic necessities, food, clothing, electricity, transportation, and more people's jobs are put at risk.

From there it's just a downhill spiral. But again, you frame it in this simplistic "paying people not to work" way that does not accurately reflect what unemployment benefits actually do. You make it sound like a vacation at taxpayer expense, when the reality is it is just about enough to eat on and that's it. It's not a vacation by any means, it is a hand to mouth subsistence payment and nothing more, and the more important thing it does is keep people at the grocery store, shoe store, paying the rent or mortgage, etc in work until the people on food stamps and unemployment get a job.

[Clayton_Wetter]

Falling for the Koch brothers propaganda again, I see.

It really doesn't matter that in America, we are all wealthier beyond the wildest dreams of most other people in the world, because our economy isn't based on the cost of goods in third world countries or other poor nations. Bottom line is I don't buy milk in Indonesia, gas from Malaysia, or purchase my home based on the cost of a grass hut in Africa.

I have to survive in the American economy, where yes, we have a lot of money, but we also have much much higher prices for everything too.

Quite frankly, when I saw the Koch brothers propaganda piece, I instantly recognized it as a red herring. They are trying to deflect the attention off themselves and their greed by painting this picture that every person in the nation they are plundering is a 1%er if you change the point of reference from just America to The World. They are trying to reframe the perspective so that they don't look so greedy by making this argument that All Americans are 1%ers.

Its a good piece of PR, if you are gullible enough to buy it.

Speaking of falling for Koch Brothers propaganda, do you realize that these people don't even do or are even involved in half of what your lying liberal hatchet men and women accuse them of doing. Liberals target the innocent to deflect from their own misdeeds and you believe them. Then you show your ignorant support of them be mimicking their propaganda and smear points on here. Randomly selecting the rich to assault is getting old. Quit insulting our intelligence!!